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LET IT OUT

Taylor Swift's Next Era? the Swiftologist Zachary Hourihane on pop culture, criticism, fandom, selective vulnerability, Taylormania vs. Beatlemania and more

LET IT OUT

Katie Dalebout

Fashion & Beauty, Mental Health, Love, Arts, Self-help, Wellness, Katie Dalebout, Health & Fitness, Well Being, True Crime, Self-care, Society & Culture, Personal Growth, Health

4.9826 Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2023

⏱️ 122 minutes

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Summary

This week I spoke with Zachary Hourihane, a journalist living in Singapore. After going to school in New York, he returned to Singapore and began his career working in journalism there. He now works in corporate advertising while simultaneously being a prolific pop culture creator. He delivers heavily researched video essays and his thoughtful perspective on pop culture on his channel Swiftologist. He has videos on everything from Lana Del Rey to Lorde. He’s best known for chronicling the life and times of his favorite pop icon, Taylor Swift. He’s been part of the fandom for over a decade and for the last four years, he’s co-hosted the podcast The Evolution of a Snake where he and his co-host, Madeline Rubicam (writer of the Lizard Review), go through year by year and break down the catalog and career of Taylor Swift. We cover the Beatles-esque mania of Taylor Swift and Zack’s take on where it’s going from here, as well as how he got into the fandom, the early Tumblr days, connecting with his co-host Madeline, how he got into American pop culture, selective vulnerability and self-mythologizing, and his process for making video essays and keeping up with the pace of media while working full time, including how he takes care of himself amidst the busyness. We recorded this on zoom  a few months ago; it was late at night for him in Singapore and early in the morning for me. Let us know if you listen.

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It's hard to compare this to anything else.

0:04.0

Bigger than God, I mean, is kind of the way that it feels at the moment.

0:08.0

I guess they're calling it Taylor Mania, kind of like Beatle Mania.

0:12.0

The Betel Mania didn't last this long.

0:14.0

Taylor was like 15 years into her career at this point.

0:17.0

Like the pitch of the conversation is higher and higher and higher and higher.

0:26.5

Let it out.

0:31.6

Let it out.

0:32.6

Let it out.

0:52.3

Let it out. Hi. Welcome to another episode. This is Let It Out. A couple months ago, I was

0:56.6

served by the YouTube algorithm, a video by someone named Zach that I enjoyed so much that I kept

1:04.2

watching more and more and more of his videos until I was eager for him to upload a new video

1:10.7

essay.

1:12.3

And now it's to the point where I'm all in.

1:15.4

And we talk about that in this week's episode because Zach, the person who made that

1:20.2

YouTube video is here on the podcast.

1:22.0

Turns out Zach is a journalist living in Singapore who makes thoughtful research videos on everyone from Lana Delbride

1:29.8

to Lord to his favorite pop star Taylor Swift. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that artist.

1:35.4

Just, you know, Google if you'll figure out who she is. But anyway, he's a long time Swiftie. And he even

1:40.9

co-hosts a podcast with the incredible writer of the Lizard Review substack, Madeline,

1:47.6

where they go through every single year and break down the career of Taylor Swift.

1:53.0

What a time to be interested in Taylor.

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