We all know how important outdoor safety is.

We want to come out the other side of life and in good shape.

Can somebody write a book, though, on how to do this and keep our attention to not bore us

to death or just scared a crap out of us?

Let's find out.

Today I want to welcome back our friend, Dr. Rob Scanlon, outdoor enthusiast, ICU doctor, and a friend of this podcast.

Rob, welcome back.

Thank you so much for having me on, Martin.

Rob, you wrote this book, and I I read it and I want to say this.

This is definitely the most comprehensive and readable book on this very, very important topic that I've ever read.

And I've been, this is something I've been at for decades.

And I've picked up books about outdoor safety,

wilderness, survival, and they always do one of two things. They either bore me to death because

they're written in a way where it just doesn't resonate or it just kind of glances over things.

And as I said in the introduction, it does more just trying to scare you than educating you.

I want to first congratulate

on you on writing such a comprehensive book on such an important topic.

Thank you for that. That's a great compliment. Thank you. Before we get started,

what have you been up to you? I know you've been busy with the book. That takes a lot of time.

Been planning any trips? Now you're going to catch your breath after all the

sweat's gone into into the book. You're going to take a time out and try to enjoy some of the

fruit of your labor and yes. Yes, absolutely. But yes, I've been I've been really focused on trying to hit the word out. I mean,

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