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is Caleb Weiss for the Bridgeway Foundation and FD reporting on now ISIS, not only in Sudan, but in Somalia,

in Puntland in Somalia, a report about launching recent assault in Somalia.

This is recent as of the end of 2024.

It's been some time since we talked to Caleb and I've missed the rise of ISIS in different parts of the continent.

Is this fresh or where they always are there and they're calling attention to themselves?

They've been in Somalia since 2015.

In Wesser, in Mogadishu, though they do operate in Mogadishu, but mainly in the northern

part of Potland.

That's Somalia's semi-autonomous state in the north.

They have bases in the mountains up there.

It's very mountainous, and they live in the mountains and caves in that area.

They started out pretty

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