This is CBS Eye on the World.

Here's John Batchelor.

My colleague and friend Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang,

and we're joined by General Blaine Holt, U.S. Air Force retired, formerly at NATO now,

speaking to us very carefully about China steals.

Blaine, we have a report from Bloomberg this morning that's suggestive that the deep seek excitement of these last hours needs to be rounded out with more information. For example,

writes Bloomberg.

Microsoft Corporation and Open AI are investigating whether data output from OpenAI's technology was obtained in an unauthorized manner by a group linked to Chinese artificial intelligence startup deep seek,

according to people familiar with the matter.

I'll stop there.

Obtained in an unauthorized manner.

What is your measure of how the PLA and its attendant political way and conduct their affairs

with high technology?

In the Air Force, you certainly were vulnerable.

Did they keep coming, Blaine? Good evening to you. Good evening. It's great to be with were vulnerable. Did they keep coming, Brian?

Good evening, too.

Good evening.

It's great to be with you.

Yes, they keep coming.

And the alarming shift in Chinese espionage and theft of our intellectual property has moved from very clandestine operations, putting operatives all over our brain corridor up in the Ivy

leagues and down at Stanford, to now they just openly talk about it and put it in your face.

You had professors at Fudan University who wrote a white paper to openly tell the world that

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