Hey everyone this is Kurt Franklin with the leading saints podcast and this is another short clip of the upcoming liberating saints virtual summit which starts in just a few days on September 10th

You got to register at leading Saints.org

slash liberating and in this clip we're going to hear from Jonathan Doddery who

actually is not a Latter-day saint but a fantastic Christian nonetheless

was actually recommended that I reach out to him by Dina Alexander,

who's also a guest, another guest,

presenting at the Liberating Saints Virtual Summit.

And Jonathan has an incredible organization called Be Broken

Ministries and he helps Christian churches change their culture in a way

that's going to help people talk and de-stigmatize this topic of, you know, pornography

and those that struggle with pornography or sexual addiction, and he's got some awesome approaches. This interview, the full one, will really help a lot of individuals

in Korms, relief societies who are trying to stimulate good solid discussion that creates

unity and changes the culture for better.

So here's a clip with Jonathan Doherty.

Be sure to register at leading Saints.

org slash liberating.

And what I would also say to leaders out there then is this hopefully will also help you kind of raise your radar as you look at the people around you and recognize that because you're not necessarily trying to start a program

and it's really about trying to shift culture and create a little more safety within existing

environments, who are the champions that already exist in those environments for this message of sexual integrity?

See, a lot of times what we've done is we have hamstrung our own ministry efforts because we've never

created that invitation to say, hey, we're going to talk about sex.

We're going to talk about sex. We're going to talk about pornography and you might not even know that there are people in your Sunday school class that hey their marriage was on the brink and because of pornography or whatever else, and they've had a miraculous change and things are completely different.

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