The plague of pornography impacts all of us in some form.

With the best of intentions, we try to help others break free from this evil plague and

often become frustrated that nothing seems to work.

This leads us to our next virtual summit, where we have gathered some of the finest therapists,

authors, and experts on how to help others break free from the struggle of pornography.

Like I said, it's a virtual conference so all can attend from anywhere in the world.

It all begins on September 10th, so register now by texting the word lead to 4747 or visit leading Saints.org

slash liberating.

Welcome back to the leading Saints podcast. This is Kurt Frankham, your host. Now if you're new to

Leading Saints, let me tell you a little bit about what this is. Leading Saints is a non-profit

organization with a mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead.

Now we do that through, well, a podcast, and also we have online articles, virtual summits,

and just a fantastic community of individuals who contribute their perspectives, thoughts, ideas,

experience in general of how to be better prepared to lead. And so that's what we're doing here.

We welcome you if you're new. Check out past episodes and dive in because it's wonderful.

Now for this episode, we can't move any further

until we get a big shout out to Natalie Razband.

That's right, Natalie, I'm talking to you in your earbuds. And

Natalie was so kind to send me an email and say, you have got to interview Rob Eaton.

And so I did. I reached out to him and the interview actually came to be and so this is why it's so important for you

individuals out there listening to send me an email and let me know who I should

interview because these are fantastic interviews that come

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