There is a fight for control of Earth. Right now, World War III is very appealing to some of the powers that be. It helps them put in place the control systems they would like to see. Humans have been fed a story that going to war will keep them safe and in fact it is the opposite. Lee Harris is a globally recognized spiritual teacher. Today, he's going to be channeling the Z's. That's his spirit guides that have been speaking to him for decades. You need a moment. It shouldn't take longer than a minute. A pleasure to be here with you. We are aware you have a lot of questions for us. We're in a very precarious time. Safety, privacy, artificial intelligence. It feels like we're on the brink of a World War III. You are in what we would call a storm period. It is very hard if you are a feeling sensitive person. It is why some of you are having doomed dreams, seeing tidal waves engulf the earth or parts of the country. What we have said is there are going to be certain disasters during this period of time. COVID was the first warning sign and exposure of who to believe and who not, but there are activists who are now building a different future and they are beings who have sat across the table from these warlords. The dark only has so much power. Earth is not supposed to go down a backwards dark path. There are enough benevolent forces that will not allow to allow that to happen. This is an urgent time to shift you all forward into a brighter timeline.

Cope is not a falsehood. Hope is an energy that people build from. Hope is a future timeline that you can make possible. BEEP! Hi, I'm Mayan Bialik. And I'm Jonathan Cohen. And welcome to our breakdown. What if you could ask some sort of greater consciousness? Why we're here? What ails us? And how do we get out of pain and suffering? There's so much chaos happening in the world right now. It feels like we're on the precipice of World War III and we get a perspective about the evolution of the planet that can really change our perspective on what's happening. What am I supposed to be doing? Where's this all going? It seems like there's dark forces. What's going on? Are we ever going to get out of the mess that we feel that we're in? Personally, politically, globally. Well, today we've got someone who is open to answering all of those questions and more. We've had Lee Harris on the podcast before. He's a globally recognized spiritual teacher intuitive and best-selling author, but today he's going to be channeling the Z's. That's his spirit guides that have been speaking to him through clairaudience for decades. Lee is about to embark on his Oneness Experience Tour in theaters across North America. So we wanna give a shout out to LeeHarrisEnergy.com slash Breakdown to get tickets for this incredible tour that he's taking all across North America. And in addition, he's got a retreat in Santa Barbara. Lee is going to absolutely blow your mind today with the way that the Zs interpret our questions and with his own reflections about what it's like to channel, where the information is coming from and how we can use it to find hope, whether we're suffering personally, globally, in our communities. It's an unbelievable opportunity for us to get to hear Lee channel and we're so excited to welcome him in person. So Lee Harris, welcome back to the breakdown. Break it down. Hello. We're so excited to have you here for a second time. I think one of my favorite stories about how you got here the first time was that you thought you were being punked when our producer reached out. But indeed, we were and remain so fascinated with your story, how you got to the place that you are. We're going to be having a very special episode with you today in that we've asked you to channel the wisdom of the Zs. We've never had anything like this in person. We've had people in deep states of contemplation and thought, but we've never had this experience and we're so grateful to you that we can bring this to our audience. So thank you so much for being here. Thank you for having me. If people do not know who the Zs are, can you... Or who the Harris is. Can you set the table a little bit about what we're about to experience? Sure. So I met my guides at the age of 23. I was on the London Underground. I was going to work and I was from the age of 16 I had been studying metaphysics and I'd been in personal development. I'd heard about channeling but it wasn't something I was interested in and it was something I had some skepticism about. But it happened to me and so I had this ongoing series of conversations with them for months. Once I'd established they were my guides, you know, I was like, who are you? What is this voice? Because it was very different to my own mental voices or my own judgmental thoughts. Yeah. And just to sort of like slow this down a little bit, you're on the, you're on the, on the, you're on the subway and literally all of a sudden you hear a voice insert itself into what was previously a conversation you were having in your head about a relationship. A hundred percent, yeah. I was going through my own thoughts, self-doubt, negative self-talk. And still to this day where I hear them, and it's different for every person who communicates with guides, but the position for me is here. So it's about this high above my

head. I don't know if I've gone too high for your camera, but it's about, I guess 12 inches above my head to the left is the point at which I hear them when I am speaking to them. When I am channeling, as we're about to, normally I will hear the first sentence, I will repeat the first sentence, And then I'm no longer hearing something, it's just kind of coming through. I'm then kind of sat behind, so I can still hear everything that's said. I'm not in a out of body trance, but that's the mechanism when I'm letting them work to speak through me. So I've been reading a book on the science of channeling, and it's very, very interesting. I'm sure you know many things intuitively that for those of us who don't have access to this, you know, we want to understand it. But just to sort of be clear, you were not having auditory hallucinations. You had no other symptoms of any clinical mental health crisis. You distinctly were having some sort of auditory information that then felt like a download information dropping in without you necessarily feeling you're in constant labor over that. It was almost as if there was this, there a group, although I hear them as warm voice, it was almost like there was this person up here that was able to just talk to me for the first time. And they said, I had heard them until I was six, but I have no memory apart from a recurring dream I had, all my childhood. What was the dream? The dream was that a group of beings were speaking to me. So I was born in Birmingham, which is in the centre of the UK, but we left there to move down south when I was six years old. And this dream went on until I was about ten years old, that it was the only recurring dream I ever had. I'm in the house, the priest, the up to six years old house, and I come down the stairs, and I walk into the living room we had. And do you remember back when we were younger, televisions would go static at like 12 midnight. There would just be this sound. So I walk into the living room and all I can hear is static, really loud static, like from the television. And on the left hand of the room, there is a male figure, but I can't make out the face or the features with kind of a long kind of I guess it could be a robe but I'm not sure and he has his hands here and his mouth is going like this like he's obviously saying something but I can't hear him because of the static and over on the other corner of the room is a female figure who it it's kind of like she has a huge blonde afro, but it's not quite an afro, but that's how big her head, not her head, but what's emanating her hair. And she's doing the exact same thing. And I'm just standing there trying to hear them both, and I can't hear a thing, because all I can hear is, whew! That's what I sound like to Jonathan when I talk. So this was a recurring dream.

A recurring dream, the only recurring dream I had

as a child.

And I only put all this together later. And then I asked them and they were like, yes, that was a form of us. And you were in communication with us. You just, they said it would have been very inconvenient for my life if they had stayed in communication with me.

So they left at the age of six.

And funnily enough, all the reasons

I had to go to personal development work and heal started from the age of eight. So from the age of eight to 16, when I started to go back towards finding myself, that was when all of my own self-destructive behaviors took place. Do we all have different guides and the Zs are just the ones that speak through you? Yes, they have said that we all have guides, we all have angels, not everybody is going to come to know them, but we're all working with a team. Our idea of individualism is a myth and how they explained it to me because I'd only heard of like a channeler that was channeling one being or one angel That's all I knew when I was that that young But what they said is we're a group But they said as a group we can also communicate with any other Being that we need to communicate with to bring the right information to you Which is why they said think of us as a consciousness. They said, but you are no different as a human. They said, you are a composite of all the people you've ever interacted with, been influenced by, experienced. And so that made sense to me, even though that was the first time I'd ever really encountered anything like that. Okay. What is the difference between a spirit guide and an angel? My understanding, and I'm not an expert, I don't spend days and days researching this stuff, but my understanding is angelics are very much here for healing, balance, they bring grace, they give us, they help us to live in times of crisis. They will get closer to people when they're going through health crises or emotional crises. They will try and bring signs and illumination to us to get us back to the light if we've gone into the dark for a healing period. Guides tend to be more informational. They aren't necessarily working with your energy field the way that Angelics will. And Angelics, in general, tend to be a little less verbal. I remember, so I had a partner who since passed, but he would ask lots of questions when I was under the channeling state, and this is 20 years ago. And we still have all those recordings somewhere. And at one point he was different beings were coming through from my group. And when the two of the angels that work with me came through, they really didn't like it here. I remember very vividly from the recording they were going, it's so dark here. Because they were inhabiting my body and they were seeing through my eyes. I used to have my eyes open when I channeled and then I realized it was it was a leaking too much energy and also when I did it at workshops people would get very fixated on my eyes. So I found it was it was it was a distraction and I for for my own energy containment I thought oh I've got to stop I can do the open-eyed but I don't. So angels when you say they're-lessverbal, they're kind of working, not in the shadows, but they're kind of working behind the scenes, uplifting energy, helping people feel. I'm wary to say that because I am sure there will be people on the planet who speak to their angels and they translate angel messages. So I don't want to make a blanket statement here. What was described to me was that the angels that work with me are here for energy balance,

but they aren't necessarily the ones that are giving me information, Zachary, who is the name of the lead spokesperson for my guides. And that crew, there are a number of them in that group who are verbal with me, but they also explained of this group of 88,

there are energy engineers who work with your energy system and there are those who balance your health. So apparently for all of us we are just connected to that web of spirit and I'm someone who accesses it through channeling and through focusing my intuition there, but I've met other people people who are just living there the whole time. And they're not very on the earth.

I'm more of a hybrid, so I can access the spirit realm and I live very intuitively, but I'm also in the human realm. So I'm kind of between the two worlds. Before my MBA breaks down, it's supported by optimizers. You know, I struggled to get good quality sleep and I just assumed it was stress. But as I learned during paramanopause and menopause, your hormones shift in a way that affect your magnesium levels and low magnesium. It makes everything harder, not just sleep, focus, mood, your tolerance for stress. That's why I have added magnesium breakthrough by by optimizers to my nightly routine. It's a blend of seven different forms of magnesium designed to support relaxation and overall sleep quality. Try it. See if you wake up more rested and refreshed. You've got nothing to lose and a lot to gain. By optimizers offers a 365 day, no questions asked money back guarantee. Magnesium breakthrough is a huge breakthrough to improve hormonal balance, to help with focus, decrease brain fog, improve sleep hygiene overall. Bi optimizers makes it very easy. Jonathan, what do they get when they go to bioptimizers.com slash breaker and use the code breaker? You get 50% off your entire order and a free bottle of mass times. Bi optimizer's best selling digestive enzyme. That'll be added to your order automatically when you use our exclusive

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The offer exists in one place. Our link, our code, that's it. So if you were already thinking about trying it, this is the sign. Go to bioptimizers.com slash breaker, use the code breaker, grab it before it's gone. Make 2026, the year you finally start sleeping again, Before we meet the disease, before we get channeling, which I have a lot of questions. I think people wanna understand a little bit about like the function structure of what's happening on the other side. Now, of course, I'm not asking for the absolute details, but can you share a little bit more about like what you understand? For example, some people think that guides in these types of guidance are future human civilizations that may be 3,000 plus years ahead of us. And there's a whole, you know, collection that are trying to guide Earth in a way to help avoid pitfalls that other civilizations have made. Other people think it's just a collective energy. Do you have a sense of where this information or where these entities consciousness live reside and what their intention is? Yes. They have explained to me that essentially in many ways they are a higher council from my higher future self, which is true for many of us, as in we have kind of essentially descended into human form from that realm of consciousness. However they've also explained they are individuals like some of them have been incarnate on Earth before, not all of them, but some of them have. But it's more the former from what I understand, or at least from what they've explained, that we are this time in history where we are coming out of a kind of quarantine, where we were held apart from our true origins. They often speak about our galactic origins. They say we've been given a story of Earth that is limited in scope, deliberately limited in scope by those who wanted us to be limited, and that we're now in a period of history where consciousness has risen to such a degree that it's all beginning to fall apart. And we are seeing the shadow fight harder to drag us backwards, but we are also seeing consciousness and light rising through more and more of us who are waking up. That's a lot of what is tackled in future human, which we'll do our own version of, you know, conversation with you today and with the Zs. But this notion of we're at a new place for the human body. We're at a new place for the human mind. Relationships are shifting, our relationship to gender. Like our relationship to consciousness itself is shifting. That's part of the evolution that we all seem to be in. Whether you call it a collapse of Western civilization, or whether you call it quantum computing, right, coming to take over, well, the things that it takes over. One of the things before we ask you to sort of get into the zone, I feel like, you know, when you're about to get a massage and the person explains to you what's going to happen, I feel like that's what's happening. Like, tell us what's going to happen next. So, will you explain the process by which you drop into this place that is different than this place? Walk us through what the massage is going to be like. Yeah. Do you want to know what it's going to be like for you or what it's like for me or both? I'm most interested in you. She wants to know if she can keep her clothes on. No, I'm curious if you can just talk a little bit practically. You know, is there a mantra that you're reciting? Are you going into a meditative place? Are you You saying, like, yo, it's time for mind-bearing breakdown? No. You know, what does it look like? Great questions. The biggest weirdest thing for me about becoming a channeler was I thought that you surely had to have purified yourself for ten years. No, really, I really thought you have to be at an ashram and you have to be enlightened. enlightened and I even though I was spiritual and I was educated at that point, I wasn't those things. So, in the same way that I can be sat with you now, and I can literally turn my attention to, and I mean, I don't do this because I've learned how to live without doing that. But I could turn my attention to them and go, what does my mean? and they would say to me, they would give me an answer. I don't tend to do that when I'm...

That's an amazing game to play. Yeah, to try and help us understand what she's talking about. But you also, I think the bigger reason I don't do that is I think by learning from them over the years as I have, they've got me into a place where I'm more capable of being intuitive in the moment, and I also need to learn my own lessons. So there are times I could go to them and I don't, because I need to figure it out for myself in real time. Because you have to have an identity that's separate from that relationship. But the minute I sit down and type, so I could have this morning, sat and what's going to happen with mine and Jonathan today. And they would have given me a few paragraphs and invariably it always works. But they didn't know I'd do this right now. They did, they told me. But that wouldn't be a concern for me. You doing that doesn't bother me. It would be if I had concerns about what was going to happen here. They will help you go to them and go, I just need some reassurance. Is this all kosher? Are we good? But then as for now with channeling for you guys, I'll go back to when I first channeled for a group. I remember being absolutely terrified and I remember feeling so altered afterwards. Now it's got to the point that my main experience of it is, especially because we're probably going to go for an hour or more. I will probably feel a little out of it for an hour or so afterwards. It will take me about an hour or so afterwards to just kind of come back into my fully grounded body and I will get hot and my armpits will be sweating after about, you know, it depends on how long, but yeah, I will get hotter. Yeah, my temperature will rise. And then so once we are having this conversation with the Z's, how do we get out of it? Like, do we say to you like, cut, it's the thing. It's, it's, it's shockingly normal.

Like it's like you were in a coma normally.

And this may be different today. Usually they will say something to you at the beginning. That's normally how it starts. They normally, they usually have something to say. OK, I'm ready. And then they will say, you know, what, what questions do you have for us? And then once or twice when I've done a longer interview,

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