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S8 Ep881: Elbridge Colby explains that the binding strategy addresses the psychological aspect of war by preparing for the resolve and morale required for a larger conflict. It aims to force China into a dilemma: accept the status quo or take actions that inevita

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 17 May 2026

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Elbridge Colby explains that the binding strategy addresses the psychological aspect of war by preparing for the resolve and morale required for a larger conflict. It aims to force China into a dilemma: accept the status quo or take actions that inevitably catalyze the coalition's collective resolve. By integrating the defense of allies like Japan and Australia, the U.S. ensures that a Chinese move against Taiwan precipitates a wider war China would likely lose. This strategy leverages Thumos, or spiritedness, to ensure that Chinese aggression triggers a "don't tread on me" reaction from nationalistic regional powers. (7/8)
SEPTEMBER 1932

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0:00.0

This is CBSI in the world.

0:06.4

I'm John Batchel.

0:07.3

Elbridge Colby, the author of The Strategy of Denial.

0:10.9

This is imagining the future and a contest between the coalition led by the United States against the hegemon, China,

0:20.2

and China's aggression towards Taiwan

0:23.5

and or the Philippines and or the rest of the coalition. There is now a disaster scenario,

0:31.2

and the denial defense obliges everyone to react in dire fashion.

0:41.0

What is it that can keep the denial defense from failing,

0:46.0

or what is a predicate for the coalition after the failure or during the contest in which either side could win or lose?

0:50.3

I believe that's what we can now talk about as the binding strategy.

0:55.6

I'm very carefully reading Fonklaozsvitz because of you, Bridge.

0:59.7

And I find, thanks to your emphasis, Fonklazvitz talked a lot about psychology

1:05.8

and about the resolve, the morale, the ambition, the passion of the contestants.

1:15.4

I believe that's part of the binding strategy.

1:18.1

How so?

1:19.4

No, I think you put your finger on it, John, right?

1:21.4

The issue that Clausewoods, of course, was a master of is that, you know, the strength itself is not the only

1:29.9

sort of factor that's relevant here. The question is how much and how avidly are the combatants

1:36.9

prepared to dedicate that amount of strength, right? The France under the Bourbons in 1785 or something,

1:44.1

the fervor of the French nation was much

1:46.9

more modest, right? Whereas six, seven years later, with the Leveille-Amau

1:51.8

and the mass popular support for the revolutionary armies and the defense of the nation and so

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