I'm John Bachelor, Hotel Mars episode, and David Livingson, Dr. Space himself, my colleague and co-host and co-pilot,

and we are lessons learned from Artemis II, the mission successfully returned to Earth,

four astronauts enjoying the applause, and what is learned, what needs to be learned in the

Artemis program. I welcome Dr. Space, David Livingston, and David

introduces me to two colleagues of his, Joe Pastrido, a former Google engineer, and a longtime

space investor. That means the companies that are now commercially available on the markets and

not yet to market. SpaceX being the one, the giant one of the early part of the 21st century.

And we also welcome Phil Swan, a systems engineer, working on Xbox and Starlink.

I've heard of that.

We're on Starlink right now.

He's also working on space infrastructure for the Atlantis Project.

Gentlemen, I ask immediately your opinion. He's also working on space infrastructure for the Atlantis project.

Gentlemen, I ask immediately your opinion of the recent Artemis II mission.

Did it satisfy?

Does it describe a future that's obtainable?

Phil, I begin with you.

Good evening to you.

Yes, I think it was a great mission.

Technically, the bugs were very small. The broadcast and the connection with the community needs some work. I think simply the things like switching away from the launch during the

separation of the boosters to a picture of the crowd was with the kind of mistake that they didn't think to check beforehand, but they're going to get that right next time.

But from a technical point of view, they had their focus in the right place. They got the astronauts back successfully.

Those astronauts were very, very good for the program. Their expertise and skills in talking to the community and sharing

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