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I'm John Bastrop with Professor Dan Flores.

The book is Wild New World, the epic story of animals and people in America.

The man's name is Sir William Drummond Stewart.

He began a safari, a luxurious safari in the West, middle of the 19th century.

And what results from it is a massacre of animals,

not only in excess of what you need to eat, but really what it looks like is serial killing,

a mass massacre that has no justification in human history.

The reason I mention him is that he's not alone,

but you go on to detail, and I'm not going to read how much he took.

He becomes a model for the other adventures who come in the latter part of the century

when the railroad makes it available to reach Montana or to reach Colorado.

Was there any chastising of, of Stuart,

when they read about him back east or when they read about him in Europe? Anybody say,

why are you doing this? I don't find any evidence that anyone confronted William Drummond Stewart

or St. George Gore or any of the other,

usually nobleman from Ireland or Great Britain, who regarded the American West, particularly the Great Plains part of the American West,

which was our analog of the Serengeti or the Maasai Mara as this destination to sheet animals.

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