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I'm John Batchel with Professor Dan Flores.

Wild New World is his new book, The Epic Story of Animals and People in America.

Thomas Jefferson, the Louisiana Purchase, Lewis and Clark,

and the opening of the West, because much of the story up to now about the striking paradox

between the original Eurasian settlers and their sympathetic approach to the animal kingdom where they thrived.

And the second invasion of the Eurasian Homo sapiens, where they were either consternated or frightened by the animal kingdom.

Now we move to the west of the country. And Lewis and Clark

record the first shooting of a buffalo that's official in American life. At the same time, this period

of revelations across America also include a man named John James Audubon, whom we remember

is the Audubon Society. So there are two

approach that's going on. One, how rich are we, and what can we do with it? That would be the buffalo,

the elk, and the wild animals of the West. And the other appreciate the bird life, the ornithology

that is here right now. Let's start with Audubon. Dan, you make it very

clear that he had to kill the animals, the birds that he painted because they wouldn't hold

still for him, of course. Did he regret? In his early life, you don't find many examples of regret. I mean, what Audubon recognized was that in order to

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