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S8 Ep602: 1. Guests Gordon Chang and Steve Yates discuss the postponement of the Trump-Xi summit. They examine Chinese negotiation tactics that prioritize theater over substance and Xi’s belief in the inevitable rise of China. (2)

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🗓️ 18 March 2026

⏱️ 9 minutes

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1. Guests Gordon Chang and Steve Yatesdiscuss the postponement of the Trump-Xi summit. They examine Chinesenegotiation tactics that prioritize theater over substance and Xi’s belief in the inevitable rise of China. (2)

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0:00.0

I'm John Batchelor. I welcome Gordon Chang at Gordon Ging, my colleague and co-host,

0:20.6

and we're very pleased to

0:21.8

welcome our colleague, Steve Yates, of the Heritage Foundation, because we're looking at ambiguity

0:28.1

in statements by the leadership of the United States and China, People's Republic of China.

0:35.2

The language is about the meeting that may or may not be in the book

0:42.5

from March 31st to early April between the two principles, Mr. Trump and Xi Jinping in Beijing.

0:50.5

The Trump administration and the president himself has requested a postponement. That's the word used in the headlines. At this point, there's no reason to believe that China will not agree to a postponement. However, it is not fixed. And therein lies the challenge, this is not a meet-in-gureet meeting.

1:13.4

This is substantive about the tariffs that have been in dispute for more than a year now,

1:19.2

certainly since the Trump administration introduced Liberation Day, April 1st of 2025.

1:26.7

So despite the headlines dominating the news everywhere,

1:30.2

Netanyo hopes strikes on Iran will lead to uprising in the New York Times and the Financial Times.

1:36.6

They're saying that the world of shipping is now the Wild West.

1:40.7

In Bloomberg, they're saying the markets in Asia are up, oil is up.

1:45.2

In other words, there's the same chaos there was 24 hours ago.

1:48.5

We're looking to make one thing certain in a world of uncertainty, and that's a meeting date

1:54.3

between the two leaders.

1:56.4

Gordon, can you offer clarity on this date?

1:59.4

Does it exist now that the request for postponement has been

2:02.6

made? Good day to you, Gordon. Good day, John, and hello, Steve. Well, China has never confirmed

2:08.4

the meeting. The White House announced it would start on March 31st and end on April 2nd. The

2:13.5

Chinese never confirmed it. And that is sort of what the Chinese do, is make the foreigners sweat a little bit.

2:19.9

Problem for China right now is for President Trump saying, I'm not going.

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