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S8 Ep602: 2. Guest Captain James Fanell analyzes China’s new AR2000 shipborne drone, describing it as a propaganda tool and signaling maneuver. He compares it to retired U.S. technology, noting potential operational difficulties for China. (3)

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🗓️ 18 March 2026

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2. Guest Captain James Fanell analyzes China’s new AR2000 shipborne drone, describing it as a propaganda tool and signaling maneuver. He compares it to retired U.S. technology, noting potential operational difficulties for China. (3)

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0:00.0

I'm John Bachelor, Gordon Chang, at Gordon G. Chang, my colleague and co-host, and we're headed to the South China Sea.

0:21.7

Yes, the critical decisions are being made about the straight of our moves right now, but the

0:27.0

South China Sea has been a battlefield and will be again. And we welcome Captain James Fennell,

0:34.0

Jim Fennell, United States Navy retired intelligence officer to help us understand a new headline

0:39.1

out of the South China Morning Post reminding all of us. The South China Morning Post is heavily

0:44.8

influenced by the Chinese Communist Party and its propaganda apparatus. So, not everything is

0:53.1

accurate, however, it is suggestive.

0:56.1

And the headline, could the PLA's new shipborne drone redefine naval operations in the South China Sea?

1:06.8

Jim, a very good day to you.

1:08.3

I've learned that a rhetorical question is its own answer.

1:12.4

This is very suggestive of a unit that is without an unmanned unit that is for either surveillance or war fighting.

1:22.4

It's a puzzle to me. You've looked at this South China Morning Post report.

1:27.0

Why do they want us to know about this?

1:28.5

What are they telling us?

1:29.8

Good day, to you, Jim.

1:31.7

Well, good day, John and Gordon.

1:33.8

I think the South China Morning Post has a pattern of reporting on new technological advances.

1:41.3

It's one of the things that they're, one of their propaganda, I would say,

1:45.0

propaganda aims that they're implementing for the Chinese Communist Party is to talk about new

1:49.6

technology frequently. And so now they're talking about this unmanned aerial vehicle. It's

1:55.2

basically, it's called the AR 2000. It is based on the Z20 helicopter, a manned helicopter that the Chinese have that they use

2:04.2

on board their warships. And so there was an image of this new unmanned vehicle, unmanned

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