S8 Ep325: PREVIEW FOR LATER THE HIDDEN COSTS OF POWERING AI DATA CENTERS Colleague Henry Sokolski, Nonproliferation Policy Education Center. Sokolski questions who will fund the expensive electricity transmission infrastructure required by new AI data centers, noti
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 16 January 2026
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| 0:00.0 | This is John Batchel, talking to my colleague Henry Sikolsky of the Non-Proliferation Policy Education |
| 0:05.7 | Center, about the projected demand of the data centers that are popping up like mushrooms |
| 0:12.2 | across the purple plane. And who's going to pay for the transmission, Henry asks. You understand. The electricity grid costs money to |
| 0:24.0 | maintain, build out, and perfect. You don't just arrive not paying for getting the electricity to you. |
| 0:32.4 | So, does the public pay for transmitting electricity to a private company that is demanding more and more electricity? |
| 0:40.6 | Good question. |
| 0:41.9 | Not resolved yet, I learn. |
| 0:43.8 | Here's Henry to explain. |
| 0:45.5 | Well, it's not clear it's a bad idea so much as it's a pretty inco-hate idea. |
| 0:51.9 | A lot of details are missing. |
| 0:54.8 | Generation is only one part of the puzzle. |
| 0:58.8 | Who is going to pay for moving the electricity to the data servers with transmission and |
| 1:04.5 | distribution? |
| 1:05.8 | That normally is two-thirds of the cost of whatever comes out of an electrical circuit |
| 1:10.2 | plug in your house. |
| 1:12.6 | So that isn't clear as to whether those costs will be included and put on the back of the AI |
| 1:20.5 | server demandee. |
| 1:22.7 | In addition, it's not clear whether this is a burden on the Googles and the |
| 1:33.1 | metas that need this for their servers or a gift, because if you build that into the base |
| 1:43.6 | rate, those generation systems, and you say, |
| 1:49.7 | well, they'll pay for it, who again necessarily pays for the transmission? |
| 1:57.6 | I don't know. |
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