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S8 Ep324: PREVIEW FOR LATER PERU BALANCES CHINESE CULTURE WITH SECURITY CONCERNS Colleague Oscar Sumar, Civitas Institute. While Peru recently became a US non-NATO military partner, China maintains heavy investment in Peruvian infrastructure like the Chancay port.

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 16 January 2026

⏱️ 3 minutes

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PREVIEW FOR LATER PERU BALANCES CHINESE CULTURE WITH SECURITY CONCERNS Colleague Oscar Sumar, Civitas Institute. While Peru recently became a US non-NATO military partner, China maintains heavy investment in Peruvian infrastructure like the Chancay port. Sumar distinguishes between the beloved Chinese-Peruvian culinary culture and the Chinese Communist Party, noting that while Peruvians embrace the former, they view the CCP as a distinct regional threat.
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0:00.0

This is John Batchel, a conversation with Oscar Sumer in Lima, Peru. He is a university official,

0:07.2

but at the same time writing for the Civitas Institute about Peru, now becoming a non-NATO military

0:13.9

partner of the United States. At the same time, Peru has heavy investment by the People's Republic

0:19.6

of China, in its resources, in its structure.

0:23.6

And there's a large port, Chiquet, built by Costco, on the Peruvian coastline, that is the envy of the whole of the Pacific.

0:34.4

However, there is a contest, Oscar says, between the U.S. and China, and it has to do with

0:41.2

the nature of the Chinese Communist Party. I, at the same time, asked about Chinatown, and we

0:47.1

talked to Meny. So here's Oscar putting in Meny, Chinatown, the emigration of Chinese to the whole

0:53.5

of the Americas in the 19th century,

0:55.2

and the communists altogether in one.

0:57.6

Ascar Sumah, more of this tonight.

1:00.0

To the freedom of Peru.

1:02.2

Is there a large Chinese community in Lima from the 19th century?

1:07.2

There were lots of Chinese workers all over America.

1:10.4

Do you have a Chinatown? We have

1:12.6

less than a minute. Yes, yes. We have a Chinatown. It's similar to the Wanis in San Francisco

1:20.7

or New York. Well, probably smaller, but we have a lot of, we call it Chifas, which are Chinese

1:28.8

Peruvian restaurants. Chinese food is very like in Peru. We have, well, there is a

1:38.4

lot of Peruvian food and we are very proud of our food. And Chinese food has a very good place within our culinary quarter.

1:55.0

But, well, and we have a lot of Chinese people, but we consider them Peruvian.

2:06.1

Every Peruvian has a chance as a friend.

2:08.1

Yes, I understand. Yes.

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