S8 Ep324: PREVIEW FOR LATER PERU BALANCES CHINESE CULTURE WITH SECURITY CONCERNS Colleague Oscar Sumar, Civitas Institute. While Peru recently became a US non-NATO military partner, China maintains heavy investment in Peruvian infrastructure like the Chancay port.
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 16 January 2026
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| 0:00.0 | This is John Batchel, a conversation with Oscar Sumer in Lima, Peru. He is a university official, |
| 0:07.2 | but at the same time writing for the Civitas Institute about Peru, now becoming a non-NATO military |
| 0:13.9 | partner of the United States. At the same time, Peru has heavy investment by the People's Republic |
| 0:19.6 | of China, in its resources, in its structure. |
| 0:23.6 | And there's a large port, Chiquet, built by Costco, on the Peruvian coastline, that is the envy of the whole of the Pacific. |
| 0:34.4 | However, there is a contest, Oscar says, between the U.S. and China, and it has to do with |
| 0:41.2 | the nature of the Chinese Communist Party. I, at the same time, asked about Chinatown, and we |
| 0:47.1 | talked to Meny. So here's Oscar putting in Meny, Chinatown, the emigration of Chinese to the whole |
| 0:53.5 | of the Americas in the 19th century, |
| 0:55.2 | and the communists altogether in one. |
| 0:57.6 | Ascar Sumah, more of this tonight. |
| 1:00.0 | To the freedom of Peru. |
| 1:02.2 | Is there a large Chinese community in Lima from the 19th century? |
| 1:07.2 | There were lots of Chinese workers all over America. |
| 1:10.4 | Do you have a Chinatown? We have |
| 1:12.6 | less than a minute. Yes, yes. We have a Chinatown. It's similar to the Wanis in San Francisco |
| 1:20.7 | or New York. Well, probably smaller, but we have a lot of, we call it Chifas, which are Chinese |
| 1:28.8 | Peruvian restaurants. Chinese food is very like in Peru. We have, well, there is a |
| 1:38.4 | lot of Peruvian food and we are very proud of our food. And Chinese food has a very good place within our culinary quarter. |
| 1:55.0 | But, well, and we have a lot of Chinese people, but we consider them Peruvian. |
| 2:06.1 | Every Peruvian has a chance as a friend. |
| 2:08.1 | Yes, I understand. Yes. |
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