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S8 Ep319: The China-Iran Partnership: Oil, Surveillance, and Regional Stability. Guest: JACK BURNHAM. China maintains a pragmatic "partnership" with Iran, focused on extracting discounted oil. Beijing provides surveillance technology to help the Iranian regime supp

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🗓️ 15 January 2026

⏱️ 9 minutes

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  1. The China-Iran Partnership: Oil, Surveillance, and Regional Stability. Guest: JACK BURNHAM. Chinamaintains a pragmatic "partnership" with Iran, focused on extracting discounted oil. Beijing provides surveillance technology to help the Iranian regime suppress internal protests while officially calling for stability. Additionally, Chinese or Russian technology is suspected of disrupting Starlink satellites to hinder military communications.

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0:00.0

I'm John Bachelor, Iran, and the People's Republic of China, I welcome Jack Burnham, senior research analysts in the China program at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies,

0:27.1

writing about an alliance, a treaty organization, a client, a business contract, a friendship.

0:35.8

None of those words actually fit. And I'm not comfortable declaring anything,

0:41.6

but it is true over these years. You're right, everybody's right to observe that China buys

0:46.9

a whole lot of Iranian oil. And once that oil to keep flowing and doesn't want to lose its money,

0:52.9

so it watches what we can

0:54.6

of the tragedy in Tehran. And, Jack, a very good evening to. Is there a word that describes

1:01.4

the conversation-relation communication attitude between Beijing and Tehran? Good evening.

1:08.6

Thank you for having me. I think that the relationship that China uses

1:12.0

is telling here, and that word is partner. China, for long stretches of its foreign policy,

1:19.8

has been in the business of forming partnerships over alliances. And I think in the case of

1:25.1

Iran, that word certainly fits well.

1:29.0

During a foreign minister meeting on January 5th, China was very clear that it doesn't see Iran as an ally or worth giving security guarantees to.

1:37.9

And very much she's it as a partner with a set of shared interests.

1:42.2

And I think in large part, their shared interests over time have been as a source of discounted oil

1:50.3

and as a market for precursors for Iran's ballistic missile program.

1:57.8

But as the regime continues to suffer and struggle under the weight of

2:03.5

this now near collective uprising, China has certainly backed away and shows very little interest

2:10.2

in coming to Tehran's rescue. Yes, you cite, you report during the January 12th press conference,

2:16.2

not the fifth, the first remarks, the second remarks.

2:20.1

The foreign ministry called for Tehran to suppress the protests, citing Beijing's hope that the government,

2:26.5

this is the quote, will overcome the current difficulties and uphold stability in the country.

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