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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 20 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS I on the World. |
| 0:07.5 | I'm John Batchel. |
| 0:08.8 | Lorenzo Fiore, my good colleague in Milan, Italy, joins. |
| 0:12.9 | Lorenzo is also Sochital del Giordino, |
| 0:16.2 | the distinguished club in downtown Milan, |
| 0:19.9 | near La Scala, near the cathedral, near the heart of |
| 0:24.4 | modern Italy. Everybody wants to live in Milan. Why? Because Italy offers conditions for the |
| 0:31.4 | investor class that are not readily available elsewhere. However, at years end, I've asked Lorenzo to look ahead for what Italy achieved |
| 0:40.7 | in 25 and what it's looking to achieve and maintain in 26. Lorenzo, it is years end. Of course, |
| 0:48.5 | it's Christmas time, and we enter the joy of the lights of Milan and the cathedral's presentation on Christmas Day. |
| 0:57.4 | Whatever. |
| 0:58.4 | We look at the numbers. |
| 1:00.1 | Now, your numbers are dramatically different than ours |
| 1:03.1 | because we have different systems. |
| 1:04.7 | It's apples and oranges. |
| 1:06.3 | So everything you're about to present |
| 1:07.9 | is within the rules of the European Union, much more strict |
| 1:12.8 | disciplinarian than the U.S. government has to enjoy. And also the American public, here's numbers |
| 1:21.0 | that are 3% or 3.5% growth and things we're doing well. The systems don't match up. So I make that caveat. |
| 1:30.7 | If it sounds like Italy and Europe are growing, not at the pace we are. There are details here |
| 1:36.5 | need to be ironed out and it really can't be. So let's speak positively about your growth, |
| 1:44.0 | about your employment, about the prospects for 26. |
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