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S8 Ep216: CHINA'S CHIP THEFT AND AI WARFARE RISKS Colleague Brandon Weichert, The National Interest. Weichert discusses China's attempts to upgrade older ASML machines and reverse-engineer chips to bypass sanctions. They also review 2025 lessons, noting that AI in

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 20 December 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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CHINA'S CHIP THEFT AND AI WARFARE RISKS Colleague Brandon Weichert, The National Interest. Weichert discusses China's attempts to upgrade older ASML machines and reverse-engineer chips to bypass sanctions. They also review 2025 lessons, noting that AI in military war games tends to escalate conflicts aggressively toward nuclear options, warning that China may fuse AI with its nuclear command systems. NUMBER 2

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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world.

0:07.3

I'm John Batchelor.

0:08.7

I welcome my dear colleague and correspondent of AI and quantum.

0:13.7

Brandon Weikert of National Interest,

0:16.0

is most recent book that connects to the story we're about to tell

0:19.1

as biohacked about our adversaries in

0:22.7

the People's Republic of China stealing, imagine that, thieving, imagine that, the best and

0:30.0

most ambitious biological projects in the U.S. and big pharma. But we're turning to something

0:37.3

that is more sophisticated. It's not

0:40.6

outright theft. It's presumptive theft. It's boasting about something a mayor and not be true

0:46.8

for other means in the People's Republic of China. Brendan, a very good day to you, and this is an

0:53.6

opportunity for us to reflect on 25 and look to 26.

0:57.6

In this particular correspondence, however, I can't hold back the smiles that came to me when I saw an FT, a big story,

1:06.9

and I'm eager for your reaction as well.

1:10.1

It's got a title that tells the story.

1:13.2

China boosts AI chip output by upgrading older ASML machines.

1:18.6

Translation.

1:19.6

ASML is the top of the pile for making fabs, for producing fabs in Europe.

1:25.5

Those fabs are shipped to a number of places, but chiefly to the

1:29.4

TSM people in Taiwan. They receive the architecture of Envidia's high-end chips and make those

1:38.3

chips. That is what China is denied because it is a brute and untrustworthy and steals everything it touches.

1:46.5

That's why.

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