This is CBSI on the world.

I'm John Batchel.

I welcome my colleague Henry Sikolsky, the Executive Director of the Non-Proliferation Policy Education Center,

to reflect on 2025 lessons learned, especially when it comes to proliferation and the threat of nuclear weapons used in anchor.

And what we look to in 26, these attendant issues, it is true that the world remains at war at Christmas

and that the opportunity to negotiate a peace looks to be continued in the 26 if then.

I'm told by informants from Europe that the easiest path forward for NATO, for the EU,

for the Russian Federation, for the adversaries is to continue the war.

Therefore, what did we learn in 25 about nuclear weapons, proliferation, and threat?

Henry, a very good evening to you. Your thoughts on 2025 are most welcome. I note that you

have identified what appears to be a grotesque inconsistency of sanctions regime visited upon Russia for its attack on Ukraine.

We not only do business with Ross Adam, as in Europe does, the U.S. does, because we buy ore,

uranium ore from Ross Adam, for our nuclear reactors. But for some reason, there's been a decision to help the banks that finance nuclear energy in Russia.

How does this go, Henry?

Good evening to you.

Good evening.

Great to be on your program.

Happy New Year.

Beats me.

I read this item with just slack jaw amazement. Here we are lifting sanctions on banks that finance civilian nuclear energy, not just in Russia, but in Iran, as long as it's quote unquote civilian, which means, oh, well, they wouldn't possibly

exploit the civilian sector for military purposes.

Right.

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