S8 Ep186: HEADLINE: The Planned Third Bomb and the Failed Palace Coup GUEST AUTHOR: Evan Thomas SUMMARY: As the U.S. prepared a third atomic bomb for Tokyo, a military coup attempted to seize the Imperial Palace to prevent surrender. Loyal chamberlains hid the Empe
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🗓️ 13 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBSI on the world. I'm with Evan Thomas. His new book is Road to Surrender, |
| 0:10.0 | Three Men in the Countdown to the End of World War II. The two bombs have been used against Hiroshima |
| 0:16.0 | and Nagasaki. The Japanese cabinet is frozen. It cannot move one way or the other. It's negotiating in some |
| 0:23.7 | fashion. The Americans, however, are reacting to the after-action photos that they're seeing of |
| 0:31.9 | Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And now the question is, what comes next? because the Japanese had not yet surrendered. |
| 0:40.6 | Evan, the thinking is that there's another bomb. I believe it will be ready the middle of the |
| 0:46.8 | month. General Marshall is aware there's another bomb. There might be even more bombs. I think he's |
| 0:53.1 | asked how many can I have by November 1st? |
| 0:56.0 | The third bomb seems to be the one that the debate is, General Spots, for example, do we use it on |
| 1:02.9 | Tokyo? What was their thinking about dropping that bomb on the emperor? General Spots, although he's |
| 1:08.9 | in his heart against dropping any atom bombs, he comes up with the idea of bombing Tokyo. |
| 1:15.6 | Now, that may sound pretty apocalyptic, but actually his thought is to drop the bomb on a burned out area of Tokyo. |
| 1:25.9 | About 16 square miles were burned in March, at least another five square |
| 1:31.1 | miles in May. Much of Tokyo is just a burn ruin. And so General Spots's thought is they will drop a bomb |
| 1:40.8 | in the burned-out area. They had this grisly expression called the scare radius. |
| 1:46.2 | The radius of the bomb would be enough not to kill the emperor and his men, |
| 1:50.7 | but where they'd see the flash and the boom, it would scare them, the scare radius, |
| 1:55.1 | not the lethal radius, but the scare radius. |
| 1:57.8 | Or spots also had to thought of dropping the bomb in Tokyo Harbor to create a |
| 2:03.2 | demonstration there. Now, in retrospect, that would have been unwise because it would have created a |
| 2:08.2 | radioactive tidal wave. So that was not a good idea, but he did have that idea. And that's what |
| 2:14.1 | they're thinking about at third bomb. And it appears that they persuaded Truman |
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