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Hey there, welcome to the Shaline Show. Today, my guest is podcaster and comedian Heather McDonald.

You're gonna love today's show. Heather is a best-selling author. She's the author of,

You'll Never Have Blue Balls in This Town Again, and My Inappropriate Life.

Some material, not suitable for small children, nuns, immature adults. Now, the titles of her book should tell you that she's got a wicked sense of humor, and it is sometimes adult-themed.

Heather's comedy specials have been featured on both Netflix and Showtime, and she also appeared for seven years as a writer, producer, and a featured talent on the show, Chelsea Lately, which I was always a fan of.

She was also a contributing writer to the Wayne & Brothers films, White Chicks, and Dance Flick. All right, so here she is. She's on Chelsea Lately.

She's got this amazing gig. She's a writer or producer. She's regularly on the show as a talent. She's building this huge fan base. It's great.

But clearly, Chelsea wasn't happy. For whatever reason, maybe some people say the show was canceled. Some people say Chelsea made them force her out. Whatever the case may be, imagine showing up at your job.

And you've got three kids and a husband, and you show up to your job, and there is no job. And you have no way to get hold of your fans, your friends.

Well, that was Heather's situation. That's what happened when the show was canceled. Now, that's the moment at which most talent, most comedians, most actresses, when a show is canceled like that.

You know, five years later, you're like, I wonder what happened to them? Well, that's not the case for Heather. Heather decided to take a different path.

She decided that she was going to try her hand at podcasting. And the reason why I wanted to bring her on today is because, you know, we so often think that we have to do what everyone else in our industry does.

And the fact of the matter is you can think outside the box and be creative. And if you know you have something special that people connect with, you got to find a way to get your message out there. And that's exactly what Heather did.

Ladies and gentlemen, the host of juicy scoop, Heather McDonald. Heather, thank you so much for joining me here today on the Shalene show. Hi, thank you for having me. Big fan. I listened to many of your shows. In fact, I'm a patreon member. Oh, thank you.

Which led me to say I need to have a run my show because like it's an interesting story. There are so many celebrities. They're waiting for the next opportunity. And when they've got a great opportunity, I assume there's always this pending doom that the shoe could drop the show could be canceled.

Someone younger could come on board. When you're at the peak of your career, do you think most people in the industry field that way?

Yes, or all of a sudden it starts to happen, which did kind of start to happen. I noticed there was sort of a shift in what I was known for doing like being a comedian, a hot topic person.

I did all these say I did Chelsea lately wrote and produced and appeared on the panel for many years. And then a couple years right when that ended, I all of a sudden I was still doing great right away.

I got a show on TLC with Margaret show and Marissa Jarrett, Winnecarrer and this doctor who is a such therapist and we did that show and it only lasted six weeks.

But then right after that, there were all these daytime shows.

Is there's this feeling when you're like when everything's going right and you're getting calls and you're like, oh my God, people notice me. They know me. They're asking me for my autograph and checks are bigger.

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