Hello everyone, it's me Tommy Init and Jack Manifold.

And we are here on the Shut Up I'm Talking podcast to let you know we just had the legendary Dan and Bill on our podcast.

YouTube OG's legendary status.

And they gave us so much advice and gave us so many interesting stories.

It was brilliant, aren't it?

So come check it out over on Shut Up I I'm talking, on all major streaming services.

Not audio, not like Netflix.

Yeah, no, we're not quite there yet.

Maybe soon.

But not there.

Well, no, probably not for them.

All right.

This is John Batchett, a conversation with my good friend, Jim McTagg, former Washington editor

of Barron's magazine, now a novelist in Lancaster County.

He returned to D.C. recently. He's on the membership committee of the board that manages the

Army Navy Club, a beautiful spot, Farragut Square, and in town. And the word is apprehensive. Membership is apprehensive about what the

doge changes mean, what the economy means for Washington, especially for younger members. And Jim

tells the story of what might be done, what can be done for younger members, whom they want to retain.

This is a beautiful building.

It feels as if you've walked right out of 1945 into 1946 and you're sitting down

and we're still recovering from the Second War.

And there are officers everywhere and there are men who retired from the army dining happily

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