This is John Batchel, conversation with my colleague Ruben Steff, a senior lecturer at the University of Wicato and Hamilton, New Zealand, about the autumn season for New Zealand.

This is the southern hemisphere, and therefore, as the northern hemisphere goes into springtime, the southern hemisphere goes into the autumn,

asking are the leaves turning? And Rubin gives a very vivid picture of what Hamilton looks like in the autumn.

Much more of this tonight about living in New Zealand and the challenges of domestic and foreign affairs. But right here,

the picture coming up for people in New Zealand in the autumn. More of this tonight.

Oh, it does. It does absolutely. I would say the main difference is that we have a lot of evergreen trees. So trees that remain green all year round, even through winter, we still have a lot

of green trees. But no, the leaves do change and fall in autumn. It's not as, as someone who

spent some time on the eastern coast of the United States, as the seasons have changed. I have

seen, though, that sometimes when the seasons change for you, you get beautiful, very bright green colours all of a sudden emerging. But because we have these

evergreens, the change is not necessarily as statured.