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This is John Batchel, a conversation with colleague Bill Whalen at the Hoover Institution,

who's a podcaster, narrator, and host on two podcasts.

He knows them very well.

He knows what they can do.

And here Bill describes how Gavin Newsom, the governor of California,

who twice elected, once surviving a recall, now takes to a podcast.

This is Gavin Newsom, booking guests who are controversial in the world that Gavin lives, the very successful progressive politician.

Nevertheless, Bill identifies what Gavin Newsom means by bringing in right-wing voices, to grow his base, move to the center.

All of that is possible, but mainly Bill says he wants attention and he got it.

Here's Bill to describe.

Well done, Governor Newsom. Right. But what I'm suggesting,

there's kind of a very cynical fish hook to this, that the governor understands when he says

something like this, especially on a hot-button issue like women in sports, which the President

United States talked about in his congressional joint address, by the way. He knows the press are

going to go crazy with this. So let's see if this is just kind of, to the equivalent of Taylor Swift and Easter eggs,

let's see if this is just an Easter egg and each gab and do some podcasts going forward,

where he says something that he just knows is going to cause a little kerfuffle.

Hey, move those routers there.

Oh, hey, it's me.

Your data center.

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