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You're listening to The Lawyer's Stress Solution. The only podcast that teaches you cognitive

science-based techniques specifically created for lawyers. Learn how to manage your lawyer brain

and conquer the stress, anxiety, and overwhelm of lawyer life. Here's your host,

former lawyer and certified master coach, Kara Loan-Thyles.

Hey, hello, my little lawyers. This week I have a special treat for you. You listen to me talk all

the time. Today I'm going to introduce you to my friend Heather Hubbard, who is a former lawyer and a

bad-ass lawyer coach and just a general rock star. I've asked her to come here today to talk to us

a little bit about her approach to law and coaching and her practice and what she learned over her

legal career and how she influenced that in her coaching. She and I have different perspectives,

but they're really complimentary. I think you all are going to learn a lot about how to approach

this work from a different angle today. Thanks for being with us, Heather. It's great to have you.

Thanks, Kara. I'm happy to be on your show. That feels so official, like my show. It's like Johnny Carson.

So can you tell us a little bit about who you are and what you do now, like who do you work with,

and what's your approach? Yeah, so I was an IP litigator for over a decade. I was a partner at an

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