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I'm John Batchworth, my colleague and friend in co-host Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang.

And we're very pleased to be joined by Professor Jim Holmes of the US Naval War College.

To comment not only on the US Navy at present, but in the future with the challenge of the People's Republic of China's PLA Navy building quickly.

And the first challenge chain, the second island chain, the geography has not changed since 1940s.

And yet, Gordon, a very good evening to you again.

And we welcome Jim to comment on your most recent piece at Newsweek.

I read from your second paragraph, Secretary of the Navy, Carlos del Toro in testimony March 28 just within these last days.

Said, China's Navy will have, quote, upwards of 440 or so vessels within five years.

The US by then at current projections will have about 291.

Jim, a very good evening to you.

China's going for 440 according to the Secretary of the Navy. We're at 291.

That 291 of ours, I do not believe it involves autonomous craft, which may be part of the Chinese number.

I don't know.

Is the Navy of the future to be a hybrid of manned and unmanned?

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