Part 1: Journalist Cal Fussman on Questions, Storytelling, Adventure
Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais
Dr. Michael Gervais
4.6 • 1.8K Ratings
🗓️ 22 February 2017
⏱️ 104 minutes
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Summary
This conversation, just like Cal Fussman, gets better as it goes. I really enjoy the conversations, that at the end, I walk away saying, man I'd love to spend more time him/her….This was one of those conversations. He's known for his skill of asking great questions -- yet his talent of storytelling is world class. Questions are to illicit responses and engagement -- and -- there is so much more beneath the surface of an answer -- body gestures, emotions, hints of motivation, and ultimately, snips of the framework that the person is working to share how they understand the world (and people). It's all in there -- does the responder orientate to protect, to embrace…..to explore, to have fun? And -- Cal takes that understanding to the next level by doing it artistically through storytelling. We all have a story -- thousands of stories. Cal pulls back the curtain to share his -- and the challenge is set for us all to become better at asking questions to learn other's stories -- and -- to become thoughtful on how we share our own stories with people who are thoughtful -- caring -- interested -- enough to offer their time and attention. This is a two part episode -- it's too good, way to good to cram. When you listen to Cal's stories, listen for the framework, for the stuff underneath the surface -- and -- also see if you can listen to how he constructs his stories. We also talk about the art of interrupting others -- during storytelling -- He doesn't -- I do, and we have fun with it (and if you've ever wondered why I purposefully interrupt folks -- it's all by design, and we talk about it just a bit in this conversation).
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| 0:00.0 | said what I really want to do is to break bread with you. |
| 0:05.0 | And now he looking at me, almost like the way you would see DeNiro in a movie. |
| 0:14.0 | And as the heads kind of tilt in his eyes are squinched. |
| 0:19.0 | You want to break bread with me? Yeah, I want to break bread with me? |
| 0:22.8 | Yeah, I want to break bread with you. |
| 0:25.6 | Then he turns the assistant. |
| 0:27.6 | He wants to break bread with me. |
| 0:29.2 | Come on. |
| 0:31.2 | And I said, yeah, I want to break bread with you. |
| 0:33.0 | It's just, it's just, okay, well, like, when am my friend? |
| 0:38.0 | Tuesday, Wednesday, what do I got for lunch? |
| 0:41.0 | When is that? |
| 0:42.0 | Okay, Wednesday, you come to Tribeca Grill, 1 o'clock, Wednesday, will break bread. |
| 0:50.7 | So now I leave the office and I am ecstatic because this is no longer an interview. All right, welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery Podcast. I'm Michael Jervais. And the idea behind these conversations is to learn from people who are on the path of mastery and we want to understand what they're searching for. |
| 1:19.0 | The unique psychological framework on how they see the world, |
| 1:23.3 | themselves in it, how they understand how people work, |
| 1:26.6 | how they explain events and activities in their life, |
| 1:30.0 | and we also want to understand the mental skills that they use to build and refine their craft. |
| 1:35.0 | Finding Mastery is brought to you by natural stacks. |
| 1:38.0 | Your brain is one of the hungriest organs in your body. |
| 1:41.0 | It's been found to consume roughly around 20% of your energy every day. |
| 1:46.4 | That means an important factor between the days you feel sluggish and the days that you feel sharp |
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