Every man and woman must form their own ethos on what they stand for in their or her life.

They have to stand for something or you stand for nothing.

So when you're in that situation, it's hard for you to lie because you can't lie because you

know now you gotta hold yourself to higher standard anybody else's real. All right. Welcome back or welcome to The Finding Mastery Podcast. I'm Michael Jervay. And the idea behind these conversations is to learn from people who are on the path of mastery.

To better understand what they crave, what they're hungry for, their unique philosophical framework of how they understand how the world works, how they

understand how they work, how people work, how their craft works, and we also want to

understand the unique mental skills that they've used to build and refine their craft.

It's not that we want to do what they do, it's that we want to understand what they're searching

for and the mechanical ways that they've gone about creating the path to lead them closer to it

and the artistic ways that they've figured out the nuances, especially on the path that's

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