Hi, my name is John Kim, and I'm a therapist who went through his own

rebirth. I share my feelings and revelations. I believe in casual or

clinical and with you instead of at you. I come unrehearsed on

purpose because self-help doesn't have to be so complicated. So I'm not a huge fan when people bring on their partner on their podcast to interview.

Unless you're Dick Shepard and Kristen Bell I think those guys are great and they always create an honest dialogue.

But I've decided to bring on my girlfriend because I believe that she not only has an amazing story that I think so many especially today can relate to and that is people who go from corporate to wellness and you know the struggles of that in that journey because that is

happening so much today especially in our callous intensive a lot of people going

from jobs that where they're burned out into a career where they're helping other people.

But she is also a mindfulness coach and a therapist who specializes in Buddhist and depth psychology.

So all that is interesting and we're going to have a great conversation about all of that stuff. So here is Vanessa Bennett

Okay, so this is where I would like to start I have a friend named Jason I work out with him he came into the gym one day like he forgot my

birthday and asked me if I liked white girls Vanessa are you there? I am.

Okay.

And so I was partly offended because he assumed that I only liked Asian girls and then I was part, I felt very weird about it like that asking me if I only

dated white girls because I was Asian and then after that he asked me or he actually he didn't ask me he told me about this girl that he went on a hike with and then he said she's also a therapist and so then then I was kind of confused.

I was like, wait a minute, so you think I only date Asian therapist.

But it turns out there was a reason why he said that, and this is where I will pass the baton to you

Well, this is actually a really great forum to tell a little bit more of this side story because, so I was hiking with now what John has said is our mutual friend, Jason.

I've known Jason for a really long time. We go way back to our New York TV production party days and we had been planning to catch up for a while since I moved to LA and so we were on a hike and he I don't know we were talking and he was asking about my new life.

And then he just said, you know, I have this guy that I think would be great for you.

And I was like, oh.

And then he told me who you were and I got to see a picture and when I saw your

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