Welcome to the Judge John Hodgman podcast. I'm Bale of Jesse Thorn, we're in chambers

this week clearing the docket and with me as always is the once and future personal

computer Judge John Hodgman. The truth can be told. Yeah. It's true. It's true. I see

you as the human personification of the IBM PC XT that I had at home. I'll tell you something.

A long time ago in a little town called Brookline, Massachusetts, a young John Kellogg Hodgman,

in 1984 had a decision to make. Literally, Mac or PC. At that point it was not Mac, right?

In early 1983, well, no, I guess it's probably 1983 because the decision was in Apple 2 or an IBM.

And I'm trying to remember John Lynn had an Apple 2, but John Wolfe had an IBM clone. And it

was very hard for me to decide because both had different games. Apple 2 had track and field.

Where to run you had to hit the space bar all the time. I'm still really good at that. And then

John Wolfe had a game. It may have been Castle Wolfe and Steen the Ridge. But in any case,

the thing, the reason that I was leaning towards an IBM PC at the time was the keys were

clickier. Yeah. I mean, yeah, those clicky keys that have the really good key action.

Click, click, click, click, click, click. I mean, it's not a brag, but you got clicky keys?

Yeah, I got clicky keys on me. You got a clicky key, special clicky key board?

Yeah, but don't email me clicky key enthusiasts because now it's like a thing where you build

your own clicky keys and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm not bad.

Right. I just founded it a thrift store. Yeah. But do email him clicky key measaphonia

sufferers. Anyway, I was about to press the clicky key on the side of IBM PC. But then

young John Hodgven then in 1984, spending a weekend with my mom's old nursing school,

Comrad, Eleanor Clifford out there in Worcester, Massachusetts. I'm watching television.

The sports game is on. I don't care. An ad comes on television directly by Ridley's

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