Hello and welcome to How To Be Fine. I'm Kristen Meinser.

And I'm Jolanda Greenberg. And today, we're here with a feedback episode.

That's right. Every third week, we share some of the stories you are listeners have shared

with us about the topics we've most recently covered on the show.

Because a lot of you write in and a lot of you have a really great things to say.

And today, the things you have to talk about are the Dougers and Ice Bads, as well as some

advice for our letter writers. Shall we dive in Jolanda?

Yes, let's get things going. Let's start with the Dougers. A lot of you wrote in about them,

including some of you who actually grew up in the Institute of Basic Life Principles or

similar organizations.

Yeah, I was so excited to hear from people who actually grew up in this world.

Not excited for the people who had to grow up here, but just I felt fortunate that people

would actually want to share their experiences. I know. Yeah, we are very grateful.

Yeah. So Susanna says, as someone raised in IBLP with 10 siblings, I thought Kristen and

Jolanda covered the whole mess very succinctly, hitting the important points without allowing

all the static to distract. My most pressing thoughts on Ginger's new book have to do with my

discomfort that she is profiting from her past year as a self-help authority on this topic,

when she has such a very, very long way to travel before she is remotely free indeed to reference

the title of her book. Yeah, it sounds like she moved on to a new church that is still not very free,

which is sad, but I think also part of the process of like leaving a group that indoctrinated you

so hard. Yeah, I also have to say I have some concerns about the fact that she kind of took her

father as her headship to use the language of the IBLP and then her husband became her headship

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