I'm John Batchel with my colleague Elizabeth Peake writing a column for the Hill,

a column for Fox News, and I recommend Liz's new piece in Fox News because you are hearing from the esteemed leaders of the opposition

this term gutting for Medicaid. Gutting Medicaid. It's repeated endlessly because

the word is out that that's the way you're going to be a good opposition member these days.

What does it mean? Liz, gutting Medicaid, I puzzled for a while what it meant since I hadn't

seen any plan to do that. But now I realize they're

talking about the waste, fraud, and abuse of Medicaid that has been actually calculated. Is that

correct? Yes, it is correct. And they are scaremongering, fear mongering, whatever, because there

are tens of millions of people on Medicaid.

Under both Obama and Joe Biden, both presidents changed rules.

In the case of Obama, it had to do with work rules.

In the case of Biden, it was all kinds of other sort of income tests and things like that

that definitely swelled the Medicaid rolls and, you know,

to their discredit in my view. And so Medicaid roles are over 80 million Americans. And remember,

Medicaid was supposed to be for really poor people, low income Americans, really for single moms and people who were unable to fend for

themselves. Instead, it's become sort of just another entitlement. But it's doubled over the past

decade, and it's a strange double, it's a strange thing that it's doubled because you've had

the poverty rate go from 14% to 11 and a half

percent in in terms of the numbers. There were 48 million Americans on living in poverty in

2013 and by two years ago that it dropped to 41 million. So it's quite, it's kind of ridiculous

that Medicaid has just gone berserk, but it is something

that Democrats know a lot of people depend on and they are, they're warning that Doge is out to

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