Welcome to Untangle, the podcast from Muse, the brain-sensing headband that helps you meditate.

I'm Patricia Carpus, your host, along with my co-host every other week, Muse co-founder, Ariel Garden.

We just launched a new muse called Muse S, which features a comfortable, soft fabric headband.

It gives you real-time feedback on your brain, heart,

breath, and body during meditation. And also includes new features designed to help lull you to

sleep. Check it out at choose muse.com and use Untangle 15 for your discount code. And if you've ever

wanted to learn to meditate in a beautiful setting,

check out the Do Nothing Leadership Retreat at Do Nothingbook.com.

It's five days in the Colorado Mountains, starting April 19th,

and is focused on learning to meditate so that you can be a better leader at work and at home.

It's a great place to chill and learn. Former untangled

guest Rob Debe is the founder and the reviews have been great. I'll be there this year leading

the kickoff night, so I'd love to see you there. Now, on to the show. Today's guest is Cotian

Paley Ellison, the co-founder of the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care,

a youngian psychotherapist and a visionary thought leader and teacher in the world of end-of-life

care. He's also the author of a relatively new book called Wholehearted, Slow Down, Help Out,

wake up. In this conversation, he shares why it's so important that we connect with one another with honesty and vulnerability.

He shares how often we put artificial barriers between us and others and builds a strong case for being more emotionally intimate in all of our interactions and relationships.

The idea that we're too crazy busy all the time to see and hear one

another is pandemic and is creating a culture of loneliness and isolation. He suggests that more

connection with each other will help us to live our lives to the fullest. Now here's

Cotian. Cotian, it is so great to have you back on Untangle today. Thank you.

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