Hello there and welcome to Run Pod. I'm Jenny Faulkner. I'm with the help of a guest,

well, it's my mission to motivate you to get you up of the sofa, to not put that run off

and maybe even keep you company whilst you're out there pounding the pavements.

Now my guest today is known probably more for singing than running. He's really

incredible. He's been to the final of not one, but two major TV singing shows. He was the runner-up

with this band, Liberty X on pop stars. It's so long ago. It was way back in 2001. And then he

won the voice in 2016. He now is the lead singer with the brilliant

wet, wet, wet, and in amongst all that, he bloominwell loves running. Kevin Sim, welcome

to Run Pod. Thank you very much, Jenny. Thanks for having me.

Thank you for coming on. Because every time I see you on Instagram, you are out running.

You do quite a bit, don't you? Yeah, I do like to run. It's kind of just become something that I just, I like to do all the time, really.

I don't think I could live without running, if I'm honest. Oh, really? In what way?

Just in the way, it kind of just, it sets up my day. It just, I think, like, I got in,

I got in a little bit of a dark place a few years back.

And I found that running really sort of helped me,

help sort of shape my mood.

And if I didn't go out for a run,

I kind of stayed in the rut

and stayed in that place

and I guess like a lot of people

you know I think like I said to you earlier on

you know I listened to run pod

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