Justin Skeesuck and Patrick Gray, Putting the Person First
The Going Scared Podcast with Jessica Honegger
Jessica Honegger
5 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 16 September 2020
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
This week we continue our special series on the Art of Difficult Dialogue by welcoming back our friends Justin Skeesuck and Patrick Gray.
Patrick and Justin appeared on our show in 2018 to share with Jessica their remarkable story of traversing the Camino de Santiago – a 500-mile journey through northwestern Spain. This lifelong friendship and epic adventure were captured in their book and film, I'll Push You, which both document the journey made with one of them in a wheelchair and the other refusing to allow physical limitations to get in their way.
Today, Justin, Patrick, and Jessica get very candid about how conversations regarding individuals with disabilities can go very wrong. They'll also share thoughtful advice for changing the trajectory to a more honoring and affirming dialogue.
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— Keep up with Justin and Patrick: https://www.pushinc.us/
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everyone welcome back to the going scared podcast this is your host Jessica Honegger |
| 0:04.4 | founder of the social impact fashion brand noonday collection join me here every week for |
| 0:09.6 | conversations on living lives of purpose by leaving comfort and going scared. |
| 0:17.0 | Now, if you haven't subscribed to the podcast yet, |
| 0:20.0 | make sure you subscribe. That way you get these conversations hot off the press right when they |
| 0:26.8 | drop every single week. Patrick and Justin were among our early guests on the podcast back in 2018 and share their incredible and |
| 0:35.0 | Patrick and shared their incredible story of committed friendship as Patrick pushed Justin in a wheelchair |
| 0:40.0 | through the entire Camino de Santiago, a popular pilgrimage through northern Spain. |
| 0:46.0 | They're back on the show, and this time we are connecting about conversations |
| 0:50.8 | around disability. |
| 0:53.1 | If you all of the sudden feel a little nervous |
| 0:55.4 | or heavy when thinking of the topic, |
| 0:57.4 | please go ahead, give it a listen. |
| 1:00.0 | Patrick and Justin are light and and open hilarious and generous and they will have you |
| 1:06.2 | checking your own biases about disability and your assumptions of people who live |
| 1:11.6 | with different abilities beyond that they've dedicated their life's work to |
| 1:15.4 | cultivating appreciation for adventure, friendship, and connection. Here's my conversation with Patrick and Justin. |
| 1:24.0 | So you guys were back on the show in 2018 and we were just getting the podcast off the |
| 1:34.3 | ground. For our listeners that may not have had the chance to listen to that |
| 1:37.3 | episode give us a just a quick turbo share synopsis of your incredible |
| 1:41.8 | journey through the Camino Santiago and your background story. |
| 1:48.0 | Yeah, do you want me to go Pat or you? |
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