Hey everyone welcome back to the going scared podcast. This is your host Jessica Honeger founder of the social impact fashion

Brand at noon day collection. Join me here every week for conversations on living lives of purpose by leaving comfort and

going scared. Thank you so much for joining me on this series around difficult

dialogue. I have learned so much and guys we are not done yet. We have some hot

episodes coming up and today's is one of them. I have the honor and privilege of

chatting with Eugene Cho, who I have known as the

founder of One Day's Wages, which is a grassroots movement of people, stories, and

actions to alleviate extreme global poverty.

But he's also the President and CEO of Bread for the World and Brad Institute,

which is a prominent nonpartisan Christian advocacy organization, urging both

national and global decision-makers to help in Hungary, both in the United States and

around the world. And then, why is he on today's show? Well because his most recent book is called

thou shalt not be a jerk. So we talk a little bit about how to not be a jerk, but we actually ended up

having a conversation around racism and Asian Americans right now, and it was a vulnerable conversation and one that I think you are really going to

learn from. So let's listen in to this conversation with Eugene Cho.

How are you doing today, Eugene? I am not doing okay all things considered. It's a crazy time in our world and if I'm honest

There is feels like an emotional roller coaster.

So, but all things considered family and I are safe and trying our best to be faithful during these times.

Well, before we launch into what you are up to now,

I'd love for you to just introduce yourself to our listeners so that they can get a

taste of who you are. Great. Well, hi everyone, my name is Eugene Cho. I'm joining you right now from Seattle, Washington and my wife and I have been married for

about 24 years. She's a marriage and family therapist, which means she wins every argument

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