Joy, Suffering, and the Spirit Who Holds It All – with Margaret Feinberg (Enneagram 7w8)

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Ian Morgan Cron

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🗓️ 19 June 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

This week on Typology, I sat down with the brilliant and buoyant Margaret Feinberg—author, teacher, and Enneagram 7 with an 8 wing.

We talked about her new book, The God You Need to Know, and what it means to experience the Holy Spirit’s presence—not just in the highs of life, but in the valleys too. Margaret opened up about facing surgery just before her book launch, navigating the exhaustion that comes with being “on” all the time, and how her joy had to be redefined in the midst of cancer.

We also explored how ADHD traits can show up in Enneagram Sevens, what it’s like being married to a Type 5, and how learning to rest isn’t easy when you live in a world that never slows down. Margaret also offered a fresh perspective on the Holy Spirit—not just in the New Testament, but throughout Scripture.

It’s a conversation about joy that makes room for sorrow, faith that’s been through the fire, and a Spirit who meets us in the mess.

As you listen, take a moment to consider:

What does true rest look like for you?
Has your understanding of the Holy Spirit grown or shifted over time?
Can you recall a time when joy and suffering existed side by side in your story?

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0:00.0	Hey folks and welcome to Typology, the show on which we explore the mystery of the human personality and the human adventure all through the lens of the enneagram.
0:13.0	We've got a great guest for you and I'm telling you, before she said a word, the joy evident, and I was laughing so hard.
0:21.8	She came in strong, like before we hit record, is what I'm saying.
0:25.5	This was a delight.
0:26.5	I'm talking about Margaret Feinberg, Enegram 7 Wing 8.
0:30.2	She has a brand new book titled The God You Need to Know, and it's all about the experience of the Holy Spirit. We're so glad that Margaret
0:39.5	Feinberg's with us today. Hey, that's it for me, Anthony Skinner. So glad you're here. And now
0:45.5	without any further ado, here is the man of the hour, Ian Kron.
1:04.3	Hey. Hey, Typology family, welcome to Margaret Feinberg, author of the new book,
1:08.9	The God You Need to Know, experience the Holy Spirit's power and presence today.
1:11.6	She is an anagram of 7 with an eight wing.
1:13.2	Welcome, Margaret.
1:16.0	What a delight to be with you.
1:21.4	I think I fell in love with you with your book, The Road Back to You.
1:27.2	And that was really my introduction to Enneagram and just so appreciate you and the work you've done and loving people and helping people
1:29.6	love themselves and love others so well. Thank you for what you do. Thank you. I appreciate that.
1:37.3	Well, that's not going to let you off the hook from the hard questions, Margaret, but we appreciate that.
1:45.0	Hey, but you get points for trying.
1:47.5	Yeah, you get points for trying.
1:49.9	And you can keep trying.
1:51.5	And you can keep trying.
1:52.7	We wouldn't mind.
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