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🗓️ 26 June 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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How do our early stories shape who we become, and what would it look like to embrace healing and grace along the way?
In this heartfelt episode of Typology, we welcome Melanie Shankle, an Enneagram 9 with an 8 wing and author of Here Be Dragons: Treading the Deep Waters of Motherhood, Mean Girls, and Generational Trauma.
Melanie opens up about the impact of a turbulent childhood, the people-pleasing patterns that followed, and what it took for her to confront her past with honesty and compassion. Together, we explore how writing her book became a profound path of self-understanding and generational healing.
Whether you’re reflecting on your own childhood, parenting, or your inner growth as an adult, this honest and hopeful conversation invites you to embrace grace, compassion, and deeper self-awareness.
Tune in and discover that healing often begins when we dare to face the stories we thought we had to hide.
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0:00.0 | Hey folks, welcome to Typology, the show on which we explore the mystery of the human personality and the human adventure all through the lens of the Enneagram. |
0:12.5 | My name is Anthony Skinner, your producer and co-hosts. So happy to have you here today, folks. |
0:17.5 | We have an Enigram 9 wing 8. Melanie Shanklele she's a three-time new york times bestselling |
0:24.7 | author speaker and podcast co-host of the big boo cast she has a brand new book called |
0:32.2 | hereby dragons treading the deep waters of motherhood mean girls and, and generational trauma. You're going to want to |
0:39.6 | check this book out. You're going to want to hear this interview. By the way, the best way to |
0:44.2 | connect with Melanie is on Instagram at Melanie Shankle. That is S-H-A-N-K-L-E. Make sure you check her out. |
0:53.2 | Get this brand new book, Hereby Dragons. |
0:55.6 | Glad you're here, folks. |
0:57.4 | Enjoy this podcast. |
0:59.0 | And now with that any further ado, here's the man of the hour, Ian Grom. |
1:09.2 | Hey, typology friends. Yes, welcome back. And today, man, oh, man, we have got such an interesting conversation teed up for you. Welcome, everyone, to Melanie Shankle. She's an anagram-9 with anate-wing and author of the new book, Here, B, Dragons. Melanie, welcome to |
1:29.6 | Typology. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Happy to be here. Man, it is so fun to have you here. |
1:35.5 | I want to mention the subtitle to this book, because like all subtitles nowadays, there are as many |
1:40.6 | words on the cover of the book as there are inside the book, right? |
1:45.0 | So true. |
1:46.1 | I know. |
1:46.9 | And the subtitle is treading the deep waters of motherhood, mean girls, and generational trauma. |
1:53.9 | So if you don't think we're going to get down to some juicy business here, y'all are wrong. |
1:58.7 | This is going to get good. |
2:00.0 | All right. |
2:00.7 | Anagram 9 with an 8-wing. I mentioned before |
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