This is the Jocko Underground podcast number 178 sitting here with Carrie Helton. Kerry, first time in the hot seat on the UG. First time on the underground. Happy to be here. Do you think you're going to be able to read these questions? I'm going to try. You think you're going to do better than Echo Charles? Possibly. All right. We'll see.

We'll see how it goes.

Let's get into these things.

We've got a bunch of questions from people trying to provide some guidance, some courses of actions that you can take, overcoming some of the challenges you're facing out there.

So let's get into it.

First question.

Good evening, Echo and Jocko on Underground episode 147 when you mentioned paying

for your kids college so they'll take care of you when you're older. Did you mean that literally?

You've often said that you should help others without expecting anything in return. It's even

in Warrior Kid too. My parents paid for my education. I do feel I owe

them, but they used that to guilt me. It would feel transactional. But if they use that to guilt me,

it would feel transactional. Likewise, if I pay for my kids tuition, my future kids tuition,

I'd want them to care for me because they want to

not because they feel obligated so to me paying tuition to i'm sorry so to me tying tuition to

future care seems to go against the idea of giving freely without expecting something back.

How did you think you did?

Terrible.

Terrible.

You know, you had some, you had some things I could see when you got to tying tuition.

You thought that that was a mistake.

I did.

And you changed it.

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