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502: Crazy Horse: Courage, Loss, and the Fight in Iraq. With Pilot, Dan McClinton

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4.831.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2025

⏱️ 175 minutes

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Apache pilot, Dan McClinton recounts the harrowing mission over Baghdad that claimed the lives of two fellow crew members. Through vivid memories and raw emotion, he shares the bond of the Crazy Horse team, the reality of combat in the skies, and the enduring weight of loss.



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0:00.0

This is Jocko podcast number 502 with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink.

0:04.6

Good evening, Echo.

0:05.4

Good evening.

0:07.0

By the end of February, the first Air Cavalry Brigade had participated in 32 separate engagements with the enemy that month.

0:17.0

We had lost two aircraft, with many others damaged as well.

0:31.6

Worst of all, we had lost four fine officers, men who are sons, brothers, and fathers. Men who's lost we mourn to this day.

0:36.6

We came away from that month changed.

0:40.3

There were lessons learned.

0:42.7

Things that we probably should have seen before, but either pride or stubbornness

0:46.9

didn't allow us to.

0:48.9

But we mourned, learned, and moved on.

0:59.3

It was all we could do they may sound cliche or corny but we owed it to them to keep going it is what they would have done and that right there is an excerpt from a book called Crazy Horse Flying Apache Attack Helicopters with the first cavalry division in Iraq, 2006 to 2007.

1:23.5

And it was written by Daniel M. McClinton, who's a retired chief warrant officer four.

1:29.8

And he served in the army for 24 years, beginning as a Huey pilot, before eventually transitioning to the H-64 Apache attack helicopter.

1:40.8

He completed three combat tours to Iraq, engaged the enemy in hundreds of contacts, and flew

1:47.4

more than a thousand hours in combat.

1:50.9

And after retiring from the army, he wrote two books, Crazy Horse, the one I just mentioned,

1:55.7

and 37 months, another book.

1:59.1

And he also produced a documentary film called the longest month on top of all

2:05.1

that he's a published photographer who specializes in as you might guess aviation photography

2:12.1

and it's an honor to have him here with us tonight to share his stories and lessons learned. Dan,

2:18.7

thanks for joining us.

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