Hey, everybody, welcome back. It's good to have you here. My guest this week is the one and only coach Jason Coop, the Mr. Miyagi Volta Running, as I like to call him. And Coop has been my personal coach for seven years. He is the single biggest contributing factor to the moderate level of success that I've achieved in the sport of trail and ultra running.

And he's just a wealth of knowledge.

Of course, people know him not only as a coach, but also as an author.

He's written a great book on the subject called Training Essentials for Ultra Running.

And he also recently launched a podcast around the beginning of this year, which is my go-to

source of ultra-running information.

And if you haven't found that already, please do go back and exhaust that entire archive.

But today, we're going to talk mostly about our relationship.

Give everybody hopefully a glimpse into what it's like in a healthy and functional

coach athlete relationship.

Jason and I have been able to get along extraordinarily

well over the course of our seven year relationship. We've also learned a lot from one another,

and our relationship has evolved a lot. It's nothing today like it was when we started back in

2013. And I mean that in a good way. And we talk

openly and honestly about that. We talk about the things that we've done well. We've talked about

the things that we screwed up and what we learned from those experiences. And we talked about

how these coach athlete relationships can be

most productive. I hope you guys enjoy this one. Coach Jason Coop. Jason Coop, my coach and good friend,

it's nice to see you. Welcome to the podcast. Yeah, nice to see you as well. Thanks for having me on.

As the world deteriorates around us,

hopefully this will be an opportunity to take people's minds off the news and we'll be able to talk

a little bit about ultra running, which is. I figure this is like one of those things. It's almost like

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