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Switched on Pop

Janet Jackson's Legacy After 'Control' from It's Been A Minute with Sam Sanders

Switched on Pop

Vox Media Podcast Network

Music, Music Interviews, Music History, Music Commentary

4.62.9K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2021

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Sam Sanders is one of our favorite friends of the podcast. His NPR show, It's Been A Minute, has released an outstanding three part series exploring crossover in pop music. We want to share with you the 2nd episode form that series on the legacy of Janet Jackson. From It's Been A Minute On the 35th anniversary of Janet Jackson's first No. 1 Billboard Hot 100 hit, we look back at Control, her career-defining album that changed the trajectory of pop music in the late '80s and '90s. In the second episode of a three-part series exploring crossover in pop music, we look at Jackson's musical and cultural legacy over the years. We also reconsider how Jackson was vilified after her Super Bowl XXXVIII appearance, and why. Episode art by Blake Cale for NPR All episodes in the series There Was Nothing Like 'Soul Train' On TV. There's Never Been Anything Like It Since Janet Jackson Once Had 'Control' of the Charts. We Don't Give Her Enough Credit 1999's 'Latin Explosion' chased crossover hits. Today, Latino artists don't need them Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The End

0:04.8

Sam Sanders, welcome to Switched On Pop.

0:06.3

Hey, it is always great to be here, friend.

0:08.4

You are one of my absolute favorite friends of the pod,

0:11.6

and on your show it's been a minute.

0:14.4

You have been running this little mini-series

0:17.2

on musical crossovers.

0:19.3

It's a total jam, and we wanted to play one of your episodes today,

0:22.8

but first I wanted to check in with you and just get a sense of,

0:25.6

what are you doing with this series?

0:26.8

Yeah, I mean, I think about crossover a lot,

0:30.9

and what works for a mass audience a lot.

0:34.1

And part because my little bespoke podcast is also on the radio

0:39.1

every weekend, and we're speaking to who knows who

0:43.5

every Saturday and Sunday, and so I wonder a lot.

0:45.5

Like, what does it take to be a thing that a lot of people will like?

0:50.0

And so in this series we kind of pose that question.

0:52.9

To three, I think, great moments in pop music history.

0:57.8

The first is Soul Train.

0:59.6

It was this very, very black song and dance show

1:02.7

that crossed over to all kinds of audiences

1:05.8

without ever having to be anything but very black.

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