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IRAN: DEFEATED. JONATHAN SCHANZER, FDD

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🗓️ 24 June 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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IRAN: DEFEATED. JONATHAN SCHANZER, FDD
1896 TEHRAN

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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchel. I welcome my colleague, Jonathan Shanzer, the executive

0:10.0

director of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy, recently in the region. But now everything is

0:16.1

made new again by the Iran-Iraq-Iran-Israel conflict and the President of the United States making routine

0:24.3

remarks on true social that may or may not last as long as it takes to read the true social.

0:30.6

For example, explosions ring out in Tehran despite Trump's order to Israel to stop strikes.

0:42.4

For example, Trump rebukes Israel for post-seas-fire strikes. For example, Qatar Iran ties scarred but should recover after missile salvo at U.S. base,

0:50.9

according to the Prime Minister of Qatar. I'll stop, because Jonathan is going to help me sort through what appears to be chaos.

1:01.5

Jonathan, a very good day to you.

1:03.2

We'll begin with Mr. Trump, announcing a ceasefire yesterday with no confirmation in any of the

1:10.0

international papers I checked on.

1:12.5

The Times hedged saying, well, the president says there's a ceasefire.

1:18.6

We were told by Reuters and AP that there was no comment from Jerusalem or from Tehran.

1:25.2

That was the last time I paid attention to what the president said before I checked with the people on the ground in the two combatants.

1:34.7

How do you sort this out right now, Jonathan?

1:37.0

How should we read the news going forward about this event?

1:40.3

Good evening, too.

1:41.5

Good evening, John.

1:42.4

I think we need to understand one thing, that the Iranians

1:45.5

understand that they cannot continue to fight and to succeed. They have the ability to fire missiles,

1:52.1

said Israel, and they have the ability to do occasional damage to Israel, but they do not control

1:57.3

their own airspace. They have lost their nuclear program. We're still trying to

2:03.1

get some confirmation of certain elements of it, but there is no nuclear program to speak of.

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