Welcome to Karen Hunter is awesome. I am Karen Hunter and I love talking with amazing, smart, brilliant people, which is what we do in this space. One of my favorite people is Reverend Dr. Frederick

Douglas Haynes III, and I asked him to help me break down this period of time that we're in,

and we're going to use the Bible, the Book of Revelations, and other verses and chapters

to have that discussion. But we just start talking,

y'all. When the camera rolls, I'm just, I'm hitting record. And so you'll hear we just start.

And what we unpack here is not Revelations, but Second Timothy. But it's really not Second

Timothy or Revelations. It's really about us and what our responsibility is to this particular time or any time for that matter.

Up next, my discussion with Reverend Dr. Frederick Douglas Haynes, the third.

Stay tuned.

They came and expected it.

And unfortunately, the foundation was flawed.

And when the foundation is flawed, the crack spread.

And the country just, yeah.

I was saying yesterday on the show, you know, it took the pyramid of Giza 20 years.

But even if we look at the obelisk of Queen Oshep, I don't think she was a queen.

I think she was a pharaoh.

But Hasef's commissioning of that obelisk, when they got like not even midway through, maybe a quarter through, they started a crack. I'm going to go see that with my own eyes this summer with Dr. Carr. Oh, great. They started over. Yeah. Because they couldn't keep, you can keep constructing, but there's crack. Right. And for many of us, we have been conditioned that just, you know, spackle ovary. Yeah. But we don't understand that you have to build from the cornerstones being, everything has to be correct. And this world is not built properly. Not at all, not at all. Jeremiah Wright

uses a powerful example in line with yours. He said, if you bake a cake and then discover,

oh, I forgot the sugar, you don't pour sugar on top of the cake. You have to rebake the cake. And

sadly, this country was baked wrong from the beginning. And you cannot keep

pouring sugar on top of this. And now they're trying to pour salt. Oh, my God. You know.

So what does that mean spiritually, right? Because, you know, I think I'm constantly in these fights

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