Welcome to Karen Hunter is awesome. I'm Karen Hunter. And is it time to not show up as your full self. Is this where we are right now? We're going to talk a little bit about the impact of the assault on diversity,

equity, and inclusion and what it's supposed to look like. We were prepping for my show last week,

and my producer shared a clip, and we started having this conversation. I was like, let's bring it

to the podcast. So let me welcome back to the show. Tremel. Hey, hey, Karen. All right, so why did you want to share this video, this clip?

Well, just with, because of all the ignorance swirling around DEI, you know, some of it, most of it, a lot of the conversation is so uninformed and it's annoying, it's gross.

And so I think that Tracy just captured it. Okay. So we're

going to play a clip. I think her name is Tracy Brown. She's on TikTok at official Tracy,

T-R-A-C-I-E, and Cheryl C-H-E-R-Y-L. She's a Ph.D. She's got her doctorate. She has worked at the

highest levels. but she was talking

about how her name might have been a problem. Okay, take a listen. I'm sorry to interrupt your

scrolling, but I have to tell you something. I've always gone by Tracy. It's my middle name.

My family's always called me Tracy, but my first name is actually Amisha. I'll never

forget when I made the decision to start going by my first name, I immediately got unsolicited

advice. You know, I'm not sure if you should use your first name on job applications because

it does sound kind of black and you know you don't want

your resume to get overlooked let that sink in despite the fact that black women like

me are achieving at historic levels in education did you know that 72% of all

master's degrees were earned by black women, and 60% of doctoral degrees were earned by black men and black women.

These numbers represent grit and determination and a break through systemic barriers.

Yet all of that can be overshadowed by unconscious bias. It's not about qualifications. You all know it never was.

It's about the structure and biases that make some of us feel like we need to hide or diminish

parts of our identity just to get a chance.

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