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The Angry Therapist Podcast

How We Survived Therapy School (Barely)

The Angry Therapist Podcast

John Kim

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

In this raw, unfiltered conversation, John & Vanessa reveal the emotional, financial, and spiritual journey of entering — and surviving — the mental health world. From burnout and red tape to awakening and purpose, this episode exposes the hidden side of the therapist pipeline and why so many helpers feel lost, exhausted, or misled. They share: Their completely different grad-school experiences The “breadcrumb theory” for finding your path Why the therapist licensing system burns people out What no one tells you about the 3,000-hour internship The dangers of the unregulated coaching world How Inner Compass Academy was born A new model for training helpers with soul and depth If you’re curious about becoming a therapist, coach, or spaceholder — or you’ve been through the fire yourself — this episode will hit home. 🔗 Resources & Links 👉 Apply to Inner Compass Academy HERE 👉 Follow Vanessa on Instagram HERE 📘 Read John’s new book in progress Sh*t Your Therapist Would Never Tell You on John’s SubStack ⁠HERE⁠ Order John's new book, Break Up. On Purpose,⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow John on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find out more about John⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

They're going to private practices and these private practice people want to pay them like 40, 60.

0:04.6

They want to take 60% of what they make and give them. So let me tell you what that looks like. You have to pay them for Supervision on top of that. Yeah. So let me tell what that looks like. So if I did a session and I made $100. Yep. I give my supervisor $60. That's right. I take $40. Yep. And then you have to pay $100, $200, $200 a month for the $1.

0:23.2

That's required to I take $40. Yep. And then you have to pay $100, $200, $2 a month.

0:22.4

Or the stupid change that's required to get your hours. I mean, it's like getting pimped out.

0:27.1

That's what it feels. It's over and prostitution, you know.

0:32.6

I'm John Kim, a licensed therapist who used to be a miserable fuck before going on a hero's journey

0:37.6

and turning expired relationships into revelations.

0:41.0

I use my story to help others come with you instead of at you, unrehearsed on purpose

0:46.9

because self-help doesn't have to be polished or complicated.

0:50.9

Just honest.

1:03.8

On today's on the go podcast episode, is it on the go? What is it?

1:06.2

On the run? On the go?

1:08.0

Something on the run. Are you running from something?

1:12.0

I've been running for something from something for 20 years, the last 20 years. We're going to talk about the run. Are you running from something? I've been running for something from something for 20 years, the last 20 years.

1:22.3

We're going to talk about the journey of a therapist, meaning from when you get excited to become a therapist,

1:28.7

to the, you know, grad school, what it takes. Vanessa and I had very different experiences.

1:32.5

And this is also the reason why Vanessa recently launched her own academy to help other people, help other people without going through the red tape and the burnout.

1:47.3

Burnout.

1:48.3

I came out the other side.

1:50.7

I felt kind of like it was a lot of false advertising and I went rogue because I saw a lot of holes in the system.

2:01.3

So let me let me start with asking you this, Vanessa,

2:04.7

what made you become a therapist?

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