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FiveThirtyEight Politics

How Trump's Classified Documents Case Could End

FiveThirtyEight Politics

ABC News

News, Politics

4.620.6K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Former President Donald Trump was arraigned on Tuesday at a federal courthouse in Miami in relation to his alleged retention of classified documents and obstruction of justice. He pleaded not guilty, setting in motion a trial that could potentially run in tandem with his campaign for president. In this installment of the podcast, Galen Druke speaks with law professor and legal analyst Kate Shaw about how the case will proceed and what the possible outcomes are. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Which so his lawyers are gonna be like okay?

0:02.0

Here's some things that you should not say on the campaign. Yeah, and then he'll definitely say those things

0:05.8

And so what the court is gonna do with him I think is the open question

0:17.8

Hello and welcome to the 538 politics podcast. I'm Gail and Drew former president

0:22.8

Donald Trump was a reigned in federal court in Miami today

0:26.7

Tuesday on 37 counts related to his handling of classified documents

0:31.6

He pleaded not guilty to all 37 counts setting in motion a trial that could run in tandem with his campaign for president

0:39.6

Since we last talked we got some initial polling on how Americans are viewing this indictment

0:46.0

So far a plurality of Americans according to an ABC News poll say that Donald Trump should have been charged in this case

0:53.0

It was 48% at the same time 47% of Americans also say that they see these charges as politically motivated in that poll as well

1:02.8

though we saw an increase in the percentage of Americans who said these charges were serious up from

1:08.8

52% in April to 61% now

1:13.1

We're gonna have to wait and see exactly how this shakes out on the campaign trail so far

1:18.0

We haven't gotten a lot of Republican primary polling since this indictment

1:23.0

Came out in general Donald Trump still leading with about 54% to Ronda Santas is 20% and then everyone else in the low to mid single digits

1:32.5

But today we're gonna talk about what we can expect from this trial

1:36.4

Considering that it's likely to play out at least in part

1:39.5

Well former president Trump is running for president

1:42.6

So here with me to discuss today in studio is Kacha welcome back to the podcast Kate

1:48.3

Thanks for having me great to be back Kacha is a law professor at the Cardozo School of Law

1:52.4

She's an ABC News legal contributor and co-host of the strict scrutiny podcast

1:57.4

So you've been doing a lot of talking today already? Are you ready for some more talking? I'm never talked out

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