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Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee

How To Build & Maintain Successful Relationships & The Surprising Ways That Technology Can Help with Mo Gawdat #598

Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee

Dr Rangan Chatterjee

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Alternative Health, Mental Health

4.810.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Modern life gives us endless ways to connect with others, so why is it that so many of us struggle to build loving and supportive relationships? This week, I’m joined once again by Mo Gawdat for the second part of our inspiring two-part conversation. Mo is the former Chief Business Officer of Google [X], the author of multiple bestselling books and a world leading expert in technology and AI. In last week’s episode, we explored Mo’s remarkable insights into happiness, grief and the nature of life and death. In this second part, our conversation shifts towards love — what it really is, why it’s so challenging for many of us and how greater self-awareness can transform the way we relate to others. Mo believes love itself is simple, but that relationships are complex. He shares his reflections on breakups, long-term commitment, emotional patterns and why so many of us misunderstand what we truly need. We also explore the fascinating psychology behind modern dating, the unhelpful design of many dating apps and the maths that quietly shapes our search for a partner. During this incredible episode, we discuss: Why Mo believes love is simple, but relationships are difficult - and the common mistakes we make in both.  The emotional patterns, habits and conditioning that shape how we show up in love. Why modern dating has become so challenging, and how commercial dating apps can make things worse. The maths behind dating and why our expectations, checklists and biases make it harder to find a partner. Why many relationship problems stem from misunderstandings, unmet needs and unexamined emotional triggers. How increasing self-awareness can transform the way we love, relate and resolve conflict. A significant part of our conversation focuses on Emma, the AI companion Mo has built to help people understand themselves better, navigate conflict with more compassion and approach dating and relationships with greater emotional clarity. You may feel sceptical about this, but Mo explains how Emma is designed not to replace human relationships, but to support them: improving communication, breaking unhelpful patterns and encouraging deeper connection. As always, Mo brings a depth of understanding to a topic that we can all struggle with at various times during our lives. What he does so brilliantly in this episode is remind us that at the heart of any meaningful relationship lies self-understanding, compassion and honesty. When we become more aware of our old patterns, needs and blind spots, we give ourselves a chance to love - and be loved - in a way that helps us find the connection we truly need - and desire. I hope you enjoy listening. Support the podcast and enjoy Ad-Free episodes. Try FREE for 7 days on Apple Podcasts https://apple.co/feelbetterlivemore. For other podcast platforms go to https://fblm.supercast.com.   Thanks to our sponsors: https://airbnb.co.uk/host https://www.calm.com/livemore https://join.whoop.com/livemore https://thriva.co/   Show notes https://drchatterjee.com/598   DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or qualified healthcare provider. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

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0:00.0

Of everything I've done, I've never in my life felt closer to actually fixing something in the world.

0:09.0

Emma, I think, is going to fix something. It's an attempt to teach AI about what makes us human, which is lovely.

0:15.0

If Emma itself succeeds, we would have saved the world.

0:18.0

Hey guys, how you doing? I hope you having a good week so far.

0:22.5

My name is Dr. Rongan Chatterjee,

0:25.0

and this is my podcast.

0:27.0

Feel better, live more.

0:31.2

Modern life gives us endless ways to connect with others.

0:34.8

So why is it that many of us struggle to build loving and supportive

0:40.0

relationships? This week, I'm joined once again by Mo Gowdatz for the second part of our

0:47.2

inspiring two-part conversation. Mo, as you will know, if you listen to last week's episode, is the

0:53.8

former chief business officer of Google X and the author of multiple bestselling books, including Sol for Happy. But he is also a world leading expert in technology and artificial intelligence. Last week, the bulk of our conversation was focused on happiness and

1:12.6

navigating adversity. But in today's episode, a continuation of where we left off last week,

1:19.6

we turn our attention towards love, what it really is, why it can seem so challenging,

1:26.1

and how greater self-awareness can be transformative.

1:30.5

Now, a significant part of our conversation this week focuses on Emma, the AI companion that Mo has built

1:37.9

and believes can solve one of humanity's greatest problems.

1:43.0

His hope is that Emma will help people understand themselves

1:46.2

better and approach relationships with greater emotional clarity. I recognize that you may feel

1:54.4

skeptical about the idea that technology can help us with something that is so deeply human,

2:00.6

the quality of our social relationships.

2:03.9

But if you listen with an open mind, I think Mo's ideas might just shift your thinking.

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