Hello, my friend, and welcome to another episode of Negotiate Anything. Thanks for spending time with us today.

It's listeners like you in 181 different countries that have made Negotiate Anything the most popular negotiation and conflict resolution podcast in the world.

I'm your host, Kwame Christian. I'm a business lawyer, mediator,

professor, and the director of the American Negotiation Institute. Before we get started,

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about our negotiation workshops. We've traveled the country working with professionals just like

you, and we'd love to have the opportunity to work with you too. Check out the link in the

description to learn more. Kate, thanks for joining us today. Thanks for having me. Yeah, it is our

pleasure. I've been excited for this

for quite a bit now. So how would you get a started by telling us a little bit about yourself and what

you do? So I wrote a book called The Good Boss, Nine Ways Every Manager Can Support Women at Work. And it's

based on a lot of my own observations over the first couple decades of my career.

So I started out in the very male-dominated field of investment banking and worked in finance

and mergers and acquisitions first at Goldman Sachs and then moved over into the education

industry and worked my way up first doing deals and then taking on operating roles and ultimately

became a CEO at the age of 39. I became CEO of the Princeton Review and ran that,

tutor.com. And now I'm currently in my CEO role at Presence Learning, which does special

education and teletherapy for K-12 schools.

So I looked back on my own experience, working my way up and then running companies.

And, you know, throughout gender has always been a factor for me and something where I've

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