Welcome to the Judge John Hodgren podcast. I'm Bail of Jesse Thorne. This week we're in chambers clearing the docket. How are you, Judge Hodgren?

Have a hockey docky Christmas. The docket clearing time of the year.

I don't know if they'll be snow. So have a cup of hot Dr. Pepper. That's something you love, right? Jesse hot Dr. Pepper with lemon.

Can I tell you something that this just came up for me. I'm not trying to brag or buzz market here, but I'm featured in history in history channels series of specials Christmas through the decades.

And when I went in there, they gave me a list. You know, it's one of these shocking head shows like, you know, like I love the 70s or whatever.

Or I love, or I love the 80s or I love the mid 90s, especially. Yeah, exactly. And they gave me a long list of Christmas stuff to talk about.

And I think that because I'm a public radio host, maybe they thought I was older than I am because almost all of the other talking heads on this thing are in their golden years.

It's like Mr. Belding from Save By The Bell. There's one of the Brady Bunch boomer a sys in the former quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals.

Just people like that. So so they gave me this list of things that happened in Christmas in the 50s, 60s and 70s when I was not alive.

And almost none of them did I have anything to say about. But on that list was hot doctor pepper, which was in the 60s one.

But and I told them I have had hot doctor pepper. I prepared to talk about hot doctor pepper. Yeah, I came in hot. I said, I'll talk about any of these you want. I'll make up some bond moths.

I'll throw a few witticisms your way. I'll just say they're really big if you need somebody to say something's big or small or whatever.

And but I really I know about two things. Peewees play house Christmas special.

Yep. And hot doctor pepper. And they did not ask me about hot doctor pepper. I think they they cut me out of the 60s one completely and it was in the 60s one.

So for those of you who have not been listening from the beginning, I believe we talked about hot doctor pepper with slice of lemon.

Or Jesse Thorne instructed me about it in and in one of the earliest episodes. And you know why I remember Jesse.

Why is that your judgment because I'm your friend. Yeah, because I'm your friend. And I remember the things you say to me.

Especially when they involve the manipulation of soda pop into weird concoction and forgotten and slightly disgusting rituals of the holidays.

And you told me that in the 60s and then I've since confirmed this by looking at old magazine ads. One of my favorite things to do in life.

Yep. That hot doctor pepper was a thing. Tell me more. Remind us for a moment, won't you?

So here's what you do. If you want to make some hot doctor pepper at home, take this from the former president of the San Francisco high school of the arts.

Dr. Pepper Club, Jesse Thorne. You open the doctor pepper than I before and just let it sit open in your fridge. So it goes a little bit flat.

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